Good conversation, and definitely a direction I find my coding practices
going in these days - more pragamtism.


> This is the piece I told Hal at dinner I thought he missed. Code generators
> and ORMs are probably a philosophically poor solution to a problem since
> they do tend to create very data-centric models but they are a solution
> nonetheless. So, when you get all the Acme Corps on OODMS's, then I might
> reevaluate :)


I don't know if I entirely agree with this, in that if you start modelling
first, and then build a DB that will support that model, and ORM / code
generator will give you the OO model you want. That being said, if you have
a legacy DB, or you start developing DB first, then, yup, you will have to
jump through some hoops to get to where you want to go OO wise - or you may
not get there at all.

Mark


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