This reminds me of the problem of what WYSIWYG HTML editor had in the last decade. Once some custom HTML is added, the editor can no longer edit the page.
So if you're already using a tool (the French one) that does round tripping, why did Peter make it sound like it is just a concept in the research phase? Henry Ho On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Barney Boisvert <[email protected]>wrote: > > That is the model->code piece, which pretty much every significant UML > tool will do. The round tripping comes when you add a new type and a > few methods to the Java code and the UML tool detects that and updates > the UML model for you. We used a tool from a French company that I > simply cannot remember the name of. Started with an "O", I believe. > It worked reasonably well, but like I said, it was all too easy to get > stuck in a corner that the tool didnt support and have to do a lot of > extra work. That was a few years ago though. > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So it is like, Rational Rose ( http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/ > > ) that works both way? I've used it before in a java course in > > college. It lets you specify the UML and then it generates the java > > classes for you. Is round tripping something like, an ultra smart > > thing like Rational Rose that can read your code and update the model? > > > > Henry Ho > > > > On Feb 10, 11:02 am, Barney Boisvert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> When you can take your model and generate the code for it, and then > >> change the code and update the model from the modified source code. > >> I.e. it goes both ways. Doing model->code is easy, doing code->model > >> is harder, doing both is crazy difficult. So the idea is to get your > >> model as rich as possible so that you don't have to do round tripping, > >> you only do code generation. But to get there, you start programming > >> in your modeling language, which just flattens the process back out > >> (i.e. you're only doing programming, you're not doing modeling). So > >> it's a delicate balancing act. > >> > >> In the real world, the model is often expressed in UML, and then > >> translated into a "real" langauge to be executed. In the ideal world, > >> that happens without further modification by the developer. If you're > >> not in an ideal world, you modify the generated code, and then need to > >> round trip that information back to the UML so that next time you > >> generate the code it doesn't have to have the same mods reapplied. > >> > >> cheers, > >> barneyb > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Henry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > What is round tripping? > >> > >> -- > >> Barney Boisvert > >> [email protected]http://www.barneyb.com/ > > > > > > > > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [email protected] > http://www.barneyb.com/ > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CFCDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
