----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chandler Carruth" <[email protected]>
> To: "Hal Finkel" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Dmitri Gribenko" <[email protected]>, "benny kra" 
> <[email protected]>, "Alexey Bataev" <[email protected]>,
> "llvm cfe" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:42:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [cfe-commits] [PATCH] First OpenMP patch
> 
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> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Hal Finkel < [email protected] >
> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dmitri Gribenko" < [email protected] >
> > To: "Alexey Bataev" < [email protected] >
> > Cc: "Hal Finkel" < [email protected] >, [email protected] ,
> > "mahesha llvm" < [email protected] >, "benny kra"
> > < [email protected] >
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:45:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [cfe-commits] [PATCH] First OpenMP patch
> > 
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Alexey Bataev < [email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> > > Dmitry, Hal,
> > > Thank you for your comments and sorry for the delay, I was on a
> > > vacation.
> > > I've made some fixes according to your comments.
> > > Hal, I've change the sentence in the doc. Now there is only one
> > > warning, if
> > > any OpenMP pragma is found.
> > > Dmitry, I've changed the processing of the -fno-openmp flag. If
> > > -fno-openmp
> > > is specified, the option -Wno-source-uses-openmp is passed to the
> > > frontend.
> > > Option -Wsource-uses-openmp is on by default.
> > 
> > Hello Alexey,
> > 
> > This patch looks good to me.
> 
> This also looks good to me. In nobody objects in the next day or so,
> please commit.
> 
> 
> Sorry that this got lost Hal, but I have said on another thread about
> this patch (but with a different author) that I don't really think
> we should add documentation and the beginnings of support for
> -fopen-mp without first having a clear discussion and document
> describing the expected design of OpenMP support in Clang.

Regarding the documentation, I agree. It would be better to leave it out at 
this point (we probably don't want docs for such an incomplete feature to 
appear on the web site at present), although it should still be developed.

Regarding the -fopenmp flag, I disagree. For one thing, clang already has 
support for this flag. It already appears in clang/Driver/Options.td and is 
handled in Driver/Tools.cpp. The largest thing that we lack is testing 
coverage, and this patch adds that. Also, as part of this discussion, we've 
decided how we want this flag to act, which is also good, and the right thing 
to do, IMHO, along with adding testing coverage.

> 
> 
> Essentially, I think this patch is starting ast step 2, 3, or 4
> rather than step 1.
> 
> 
> I think we're actually imagining OpenMP working generally the same
> way these days (based on the discussion we had on the aforementioned
> thread -- another reason I really dislike forking threads), but I'd
> like to get that documented, and a general roadmap of how the
> support is going to be added to Clang and by whom laid out first.

I think this discussion of the command-line flags is sufficiently separate from 
the AST design and other handling that having it be separate is actually a good 
thing. Nevertheless, I see your point.

> And I think based on *that* discussion, Doug needs to sign off on
> OpenMP as a viable language extension for Clang to support. I think
> it is viable, and would support it, but it's not obvious under the
> current rules. Does this make sense to folks? I think it's the next
> step.

For one thing, there are already TODO's regarding OpenMP in 
Parse/ParseStmt.cpp; those, along with the preexisting -fopenmp flag support, 
and previous discussions with various people, led me to believe that this 
decision, at least to some extent, had already been made. Nevertheless, we 
certainly do need a higher-level discussion.

Doug, how should we structure the discussion regarding OpenMP support? Are you 
okay with the changes in this patch specifically?

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> 
> Finally, I would point out that I still have some concerns over the
> contributors of OpenMP support not being significant contributors to
> Clang in general, and not contributing to the support and
> maintenance burden of the system as a whole. I have not yet seen
> significant changes there, although I'm hopeful they'll be
> forthcoming. I think that is an essential component to getting these
> patches in and adding OpenMP to the Clang.

I think that this concern is fair, but I would recommend withholding judgment. 
As more work is done, more naturally-bordering maintenance tasks will beg for 
attention ;)

Thanks again,
Hal

-- 
Hal Finkel
Postdoctoral Appointee
Leadership Computing Facility
Argonne National Laboratory
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