Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 11:58 AM 3/22/2007 -0700, Bryan Stearns wrote:
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
The order that individual attributes will be set in is not guaranteeed, but they are *all* set before your __setup__ method is called. Any keyword arguments passed to __init__ will prevent that attribute value from being calculated - it'll just be set from the keyword before __setup__ is called.
Can you please wrap this initialization with:
       with view.observersDeferred():
           with view.reindexingDeferred():
               # change item class here
               # do initialization here

so that observers don't fire until the state of the object is consistent? (I don't know whether disabling indexing is important, but I don't think it'll hurt...)

Do we do this during __init__ now? I'm just wondering.
AFAIK, when doing **kwd initialization of items, the repository already defers firing observers on that item until all of the kwd initialization is done. However, we had bugs where we were using **kwd initialization to set up a bidirectional reference to another item, and the other item was observing the other end of the biref, and the repository didn't defer that observer from firing. (The case: Reminders.remindable is a biref to Remindable.reminders, which Remindable had an observer on -- if we passed the remindable in as a kwd argument when creating a Reminder, the Remindable's observer could (and did!) get called before other attributes on the Reminder were set up. I changed the cases I found where we did this, to assign the remindable after the Reminder was otherwise constructed -- this was before we had the observersDeferred mechanism, though.)
When the class changes, the order of attribute change is that the __class__ will change, then any initialValues() declared by the subclass that are *not* already defined by the base class. In other words, only attributes that didn't exist before would be initialized. Finally, the __setup__ would run.

So, I guess I don't understand why we need the deferrals. It doesn't seem like there'd be anything watching the subclass attributes, since they didn't exist until the class changed. I'm not sure at what point observers kick in, either, but IIUC they would be triggered *now* by anything you set during __init__, so I don't see where this is a change. Maybe an example of a specific case would help me understand?


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