On Nov 1, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Heikki Toivonen wrote:
Heikki Toivonen wrote:
The people behind the Ubuntu project are ramping up planning for the
next long term release of Ubuntu, code named Hardy Heron. The plan
is to
release that in April 2008.
We want to get Chandler into the official Hardy Heron repositories,
so
that Ubuntu users will be able to get Chandler like they get any
other
piece of software, i.e. using their package manager.
The project wiki page is
http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/UbuntuHardyHeronChandler. The
wiki
Bear was recently at a conference with the Ubuntu people where Hardy
Heron was discussed. There has been some talk on what he learned, but
we'd better put it all on the list as well so everyone will have the
same info.
Some things I remember bear saying:
* openjdk won't make it as the default java in Hardy Heron
timeframe. I
think this means that we either need to still ship Chandler with
openjdk, or we'll have to pick some java package to depend on. I'd
prefer if we picked sun-java 6 dependency rather than ship openjdk (of
course if openjdk package is included in Hardy Heron we should go
for that).
OpenJDK is starting to make it into the debian system, but that's
using a non Sun environment. I'm monitoring the openjdk lists for
traffic but I dont think it's a build priority for them. The Debian
folks just don't move fast when it comes to Sun.
I'm still trying to find the person in the Ubuntu realm who is
tracking this.
* It will be a lot harder to get to "main" repositories as opposed to
"universe" or others. I don't actually think this is a problem, I'd be
happy with anything at all where the user needs at most to do the
following to get Chandler: enable universe/whatever repository in
synaptic, update, click to install chandler.
The main repos are considered "core" for Ubuntu and generally they
track the Debian set very closely, pulling packages into their main
when they need them for other things.
Getting into the universe is a matter of stepping up and delivering
package solutions. For Ubuntu the people who do universe builds are
known as Master's of The Universe - MOTU, and they are very much self-
running once you get into that project.
A process I have already started for my personal parsedatetime
project. Once I'm in for that then getting in for Chandler will be
easier. At FOSSCamp I networked with a number of MOTU's so I won't be
starting cold.
I found the Hardy Heron release schedule at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule and one thing that
immediately pops out at me is the Debian import freeze on December
13th.
I think the easiest way to get into Ubuntu is by being packaged by
Debian, so this route is open for only about a month. We need people
to
step up to help with packing.
That date is key for main packages IIRC but I will double check.
There are still many things that are not clear to me, though.
Are there other tasks we need to do that are not on the list at
http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/UbuntuHardyHeronChandler?
Did the Ubuntu folks offer any advice on doing the tasks and getting
into the repositories?
Yes, a lot of little things but mostly it was two items: Get on
Launchpad, become a MOTU for the packages we need.
After those, the other steps will become "visible" as I learn to
navigate the Ubuntu system.
Some links:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/PackagingGuideMerge
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
--
bear
Build and Release Engineer
Open Source Applications Foundation (OSAF)
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