Hi Carl,

Not to keep re-routing you just for the fun of it! but I think you'll grab more developer attention if we have this discussion over on the Chandler Development List. If you haven't subscribed already, you can sign up here: http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ chandler-dev

We've talked about simply allowing you to define queries using in the Toolbar Text Field as a part of Search. So instead of searching for a text string, you might able to search on a particular attribute:

Title=Call:

It'd be harder to do things like: Anything in January of 2008 or All LATER items without calendar and alarm dates. You'd start having to invent your own query syntax ;)

And then you could simply save this query as a dynamically generated collection. (Note, under the hood, all Chandler collections are "rule- based" *and* will allow inclusions and exclusions, aka items that don't match the rule.)

What we don't have today is a way for users to define rules.

We've also talked about using the detail view itself as a way to define rules. (Gmail does this nicely with its filter-builder.) as well as GUI rule builders that would allow you to define complex rules. But I think a simple way to define rules through the Search bar would be a great start.

I'm going to post a response on the users list asking people for some specific examples of queries they'd like to define.

Best,
Mimi

On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Carl Lemp wrote:

What I picture as a first step is a Properties item on the right- click menu for the collections in the side-bar. On a properties dialog, I could add names/phrases to match (synonyms) for that collection and enable auto-assignment for the collection name and/ or the synonyms. Something like the syntax and capabilities of Google's advanced search page would be convenient and easily understood by everybody; only using Triage status and item type instead of Language and File Type. Any items that matched would be assigned to the collection. In addition to ensuring that an item showed up everywhere it was relevant, this would allow me to treat collections as views into the database of items. To work well as a view, the rules would have to be applied to every item in the database so that I could define a new collection for an existing database and Chandler would search the entire database to assign all matching items to the new collection.

Could all that be done with a plug-in? If so, could you point me toward the tutorial on creating plug-ins.

Regards,

Carl

----- Original Message ----
From: Grant Baillie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Carl Lemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:08:44 PM
Subject: Re: [chandler-users] Re: Automatic Assignments


On 18 Mar, 2008, at 17:24, Carl Lemp wrote:

> Mimi, in your response to me and Alan, you mentioned that OSAF
> support volunteers working on features you don't have time to get
> to.  That sounds interesting!  Do you have any guess as to how many
> person days/weeks/months it might take for a novice Python
> programmer to get up to speed on Chandler internals and then
> implement a simple auto-assignment of items based on collection name
> and synonyms for collection names?

Hi, Carl

There is a bit of a learning curve (for novice programmers,
especially) to getting to the point where you can be writing code for
a Chandler plugin. If you're interested in trying, I'll happily point
you at the relevant docs (e.g. there's a tutorial that does discuss
setting up a plugin).

So far as person-week estimates go, I guess it depends on which items
you want to make auto-assignments on (e.g. the quick entry field?
incoming mail? any newly created item?). Can you elaborate on what you
had in mind, especially w.r.t. where you would expect to find
collection names, and how the synonyms would be set up?

--Grant


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