Hi,

I'm forwarding your message to the chandler-dev list, where there's been a related discussion on writing a CalDAV-to-SyncML or Chandler Morse Code-to-SyncML bridge, proposed by Jared.

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Best,
Mimi

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From: [email protected]
Date: December 11, 2008 11:48:21 AM PST
To: [email protected]
Subject: [chandler-users] syncml Re: Chandler and PDA/Mobile/ Smartphone

adding to my thoughts below, I did some more googling and came across SyncML, a standard used by Nokia and many other devices, including IPhone (using third party tool)

Looking for an open source framework that could be used to add SyncML support to Chandler I came across OpenSync (successor of Multisync)
http://www.opensync.org/

The next question would be: How much work is it to add SyncML support to Chandler ? There is already a reply from 2003, which says its quick for a first running demo.
http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/SyncML

Is there anybody on the list, which has enough Chandler Code knowledge to team up doing the project of a very simple chandler to todo syncML service? I am a newy to Phyton, Chandler Code and SyncML - so the best I could do is understand, provide code after guidance and motivate ;)




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Datum: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:44:13 +0100
Von: [email protected]
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [chandler-users] Chandler and PDA/Mobile/Smartphone

am having the same problem. And I think the real issue is that Chandler is so advanced in it's "Items" notion that it is hard to even just match to
other PIM designs.

Here is a try to outline how things can work, please someone shed light on
my errors and outline if something works alread:

  Chandler
syncs with

  Item A in Collection Homework stamped Adress
generic Adressbook (1way, using SyncML ?)

  Item B in Collection Homework stamped Calender
generic  Cal Application 1way, using CalDAV

  Item C in Collection Homework NOT stamped
generic ToDo Application (using SyncML)


My suggestions:
a) Let A,B also sync with ToDo ? If ToDo is the only place to make changes
the data model is simple enough for synchronization.

b) A,B find a oneway sync as most important on the road is the overview of available timeslots, or know address, new entries (calender or adress) could pop up in chandler as not stamped and then stamping is added on desktop
and one way syncing distributes.
This still requires one way syncing of Calender and one way syncing of
Adresses

c) implement a very simply "quick view and entry" application for ToDos on mobile device that syncs natively with Chandler, or provide a connector that uses existing application. I think SyncML is most important standard
here (?)

any comments ?




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Datum: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:51:02 -0800 (PST)
Von: Andrew Tong <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [chandler-users] Chandler and PDA/Mobile/Smartphone

Here are my findings regarding iPhone and Chandler-Hub/Cosmo- Server to
date:

1.0 Mac:
- Since iPhone syncs with iCal.app...
- iCal.app is a CalDav (from OS 10.5 Leopard)  and iCalendar client
- iCal.app does 1-way or 2-way sync with Cosmo Server
- iPhone does 2-way sync with iCal.app
- iPhone effectively does 2-way sync with Cosmo Server


2.0 Windows
- Since iPhone syncs only with Outlook 2003/2007...

2.1 Out-of-the-box XP
- Don't wan't to buy/use Outlook...
- No iPhone sync

2.2 Outlook 2-way
- Since OL doesn't support CalDav
- Can't get http://openconnector.org/ to work (CalDav for OL)
- No iPhone 2-way sync via OL, yet

2.3.1 Outlook 1-way subscribe
- Subscribe to calendar on Cosmo from OL
- iPhone can't sync with such "external" calendars!
- No iPhone 1-way sync via OL

2.3.2 OUtlook 1-way import
- Export .ics from Chandler
- Import .ics into OL
- iPhone syncs 2-way with OL via iTunes
- iPhone effectively does 1-way sync with Chandler via OL
- Should work, but itunes/OL sync is broken for many users

3.0 Over-the-air

3.1 NemusSync 1-way via Google Calendar
- Export .ics from Chandler
- Import .ics into gCal
- Jailbroken iPhone does 1/2-way sync with gGal OTA via NemusSync
- iPhone effectively does 1-way sync with Cosmo Server via gGal

3.2 Funambol 2-way via Thunderbird/Lightning via Funambol server
- www.forge.funambol.org is an opensource SyncML project
- Thunderbird/Lightning syncs 2-way with Cosmo over CalDav
- Tb/Ln sycs 2-way with Funambol server using Funambol Tb/Ln plugin
- iPhone syncs 2-way with Funambol server using Funambol iPHone app
- But Funambol iPHone app syncs contacts only
- No iPhone 2-way sync via SyncML, yet


We currently use a local Cosmo server with Chandler clients. XP is my
primary work machine, so 1.0 is out. I don't use and I don't want to
buy Outlook, so 2.x are out. I don't want't to rely on the cloud, so 3.1
is out. As you can see, the situation is rather dire on the windows
side.
Apple should make iTunes talk to any CalDav server, especially since
this
is the path it is following on the Mac side. Apple should also open up whatever API is needed so that Funambol can support event sync as well,
and
NemusSync can work on un-jailbroken phones. Since NemuSync is working
quite
with with gCal presumably over CalDav, I have asked on their forum
groups.google.com/group/nemussync suggesting the support of local CalDav
server as
well as gCal.

Can this outline form some sort of skeleton wiki others doing similar
investigations to add to?



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