Spun off from  http://n2.nabble.com/-tp3933215p4430348.html Chandler project
future 


Fritz Meissner wrote:
> 
> … I am very much hoping that Chandler makes the jump successfully, but I
> think it will take a while to get running on the new basis. In the
> meantime, I'd love to have some communication from anybody who is still
> working on it …
> 

<http://chandlerproject.org/script/getIrcTranscript.cgi?messagesOnly=true&channel=chandler&date=20100112>
and
<http://chandlerproject.org/script/getIrcTranscript.cgi?messagesOnly=true&channel=chandler&date=20100113>
show work on Chandler Desktop 1.x and Chandler Hub respectively, plus
discussion of things such as: 

 * architecture
 * learning curves for developers
 * wxpython hacking skills
 * reimplementation
 * paid developers.

Highlights (I encourage people to browse the logs, for other points of
interest): 

> chandler-dev mailing list is the official forum for contacting devs.
> i'm mulling how i can help coordinate or whatever. the lack of
> available devs is an issue/blocker

> The "developers" area of the wiki didn't get rewritten properly
> before the big crunch, so some interesting page aren't linked in.

> 1) the #1 best use of funds would be intelligent combining with a
> community effort 
> 2) wouldn't it be awesome if like osaf paid for docs and you paid
> for devs to use those docs 
> 3) osaf board has been at a phase for a while of trying to figure
> out the best use of funds we do have, in particular since it's not
> been as easy as just paying an existing dev to hack in some new
> features.

A side note, for anyone marvelling at the number of open issues in
OSAF Bugzilla: most of the ones added by me may become negligible
(wontfix), subject to changes in architecture/implementation.

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For a moment, looking outside Chandler/OSAF, at two other well-known open
source projects: 

 1. Recently in  irc://irc.mozilla.org/#mozilla
irc://irc.mozilla.org/#mozilla : 

> We will be naming the Sunbird release 1.0b1 … no Sunbird 1.0a1. 
> After that there will be no further Sunbird release, see 
> <http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2009/02/calendar_project_at_a_critical.html>

 2. The Plone 4 architecture visualised at 
    <http://dist.martinaspeli.net/Plone%204%20architecture%20v0.1.pdf> 
    is no less complex than the Cosmo architecture at 
    <http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/CosmoArchitecture>. 

As I see things: 

 a) a community that's massive, or massively interested, does not always 
    equate to ongoing development of a respected product; and

 b) complexity of architecture need not deter a keen/vibrant community.

(That's a vast over-simplification … I suppose the point I'm making is, 
people shouldn't over-focus on quietness in IRC or wikis or blogs or lists
;)

Bringing in a point from the chat: 

> desktop architecture-wise, the current architecture was designed
> when the mandate from Mitch was "build me something we can use to
> build an all-singing desktop pim of the future". So it's a complex
> architecture, envisioned to solve problems we don't even have

Similar things could be said about aspects of the architectural
diagram for Plone 4. 

In any situation: having a vision -- however nebulous -- of 'space' for 
future development is a very good thing …
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