Eater wrote:
> Sounds fun. Have you looked into the equipment cost?

        Well, I was looking around, and it doesn't seem to matter what 
equipment you use.
        Here's how I understand this works. You have a TNC (dumb terminal) that 
is hooked to a packet modem that is hooked to a radio transceiver. The 
packet modem takes the data stream from your TNC and outputs different 
tones for 0 and 1 at various speeds, depending on what the packet modem 
is capable of (and what the remote end is capable of receiving, I would 
presume). The process at the opposite end of the link is same-same, just 
in reverse.
        But in our case, we wouldn't be using a TNC which outputs just data to 
a packet modem. We'd be using a PC acting as a gateway. The PC would be 
equipped with a sound card, and as such could act as its own packet 
modem. And since the transmission is nothing more than audio 
representations of binary data - sound like a modem anyone? - it really 
doesn't seem to matter what radios were used, so long as they were 
sufficient to provide enough clarity and range to make the link "just 
work". That is, of course, presuming you want to handle any wiring that 
needs to be hacked up between the various devices to make the audio link 
work right.
        Given the above observations - presuming I'm correct - you could link 
one city block to another with nothing more than a two-pack of $50 
radios from wal-mart using GMRS or FRS frequencies. It's too bad that CB 
regulations won't let you tie a channel up for more than 5 minutes at a 
time, or it would be a very worthwhile alternative. 2 meter HF/UHF/VHF 
equipment is the standard for this type of thing, and while it's not 
uber-cheap, you can get in to it for a few hundred bucks, including 
antennas, if you pick up used equipment and use your brain and hands 
more than your wallet.

> It's limited to something like 9600 bps iirc...

        yeah the speeds aren't too good, normally. I mean we're talking a 
technology that was developed late in the 70's, early in the '80s. 
Although the more I look into it, the more that seems to be a limitation 
of the modems at the host and client than of the technology itself. 
There are some packet modems that can get 56kbps, and some that can get 
1.2mbs. The main difference I'm seeing is that the 1.2mbs equipment 
relies on a special version of your radio that has the voice-modulation 
hardware removed or bypassed. Which makes it inconvenient and 
unappealing to most HAM operators, who want to have one unit that does 
both. But in our application we're talking about here, we could give a 
damn less if the radio could be used for voice transmission, as long as 
the speed has been bumped up.
        So given what I understand from above about the type of equipment and 
the cost, if you were willing to modify a radio to where it had no voice 
modulator anymore, and cut the packet modem out of the mix by going 
straight out from the PC... If you could maintain a good clear signal, I 
don't see any reason why 1.2mb transmissions would be out of our reach. 
I mean if we can get megabit transmission speeds from satellite linkups, 
why not from radio waves coming from ground level?

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