> Even now, a lot of us probably have access to systems with 24-64 cores and 
> maybe double that. Such systems are good enough to 'kick tyres' for a lot of 
> concepts. not quite in the range of 1000s of cores, but good enough to 
> experiment and still have some code that is quite useful. Also, with stuff 
> like the Knight's Landing Xeon's due (in any volume and outside the US) 
> within 12 months, now is probably as good a time as any to start.

That all sounds right to me.


> The GPU 
> stuff in Chapel looks interesting but I cannot see that this is easily built 
> in the current distribution. I also do not understand enough to inexpensively 
> experiment with say 1 or 2 NVIDIA add-on processors. Maybe
> somebody from NVIDIA should suggest a platform and a cook-book recipe???

The prototypical GPU support in Chapel (described in the IPDPS 
publication) never made it back into Chapel's master branch, so is not 
readily available, as you note.  It is available on a branch, but one that 
is so outdated by now that it's probably not worth going back to.  GPUs 
are a case that we intend to return to, but are focusing more on KNL for 
the time being (trying to be early to that party).


> I will reply at length to the above. Let me know if long emails should be 
> done offline.

A good rule-of-thumb is that if the conversation is likely to be of 
interest to others on the list or on the archives, to keep it on-list. 
Once it starts to feel very narrow, we usually move it off-list 
(chapel_info <at> cray... being a non-public possibility; the SourceForge 
chapel-developers list being a narrower, but still public list -- though 
one that you need to subscribe to, at least temporarily, to be able to 
post to).


> Abstractions that work for FE are applicable to lots of other areas of HPC
> across a wide range of applications and industries.
>
> That said, part of the effort involves writing Chapel libraries that can
> import/export models produced by an easily avaible commercial/open-source 
> preprocessors/postprocessors, i.e. modelling tools. Does not need special
> Chapel features.

OK.


> What recent/current feedback do you have from LLNL?

I wouldn't want to put words in their mouths, but generally I'd say that 
they fit the profile I characterized earlier: they like the promise of 
Chapel and are waiting for the performance to catch up.

-Brad


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