Hi Brad,

Thanks very much for your reply, I will then copy it to the issue page
(after simplifying somewhat).

Best regards,
-Takeshi

2017-06-30 1:49 GMT+09:00 Brad Chamberlain <[email protected]>:
>
> Hi Takeshi --
>
> It would be nice to get this added as a comment to the current issue that's
> open on GitHub:
>
>         https://github.com/chapel-lang/chapel/issues/6440
>
> Would you either be willing to add it there, or if not, is it OK if I do
> so, giving you credit?
>
> Thanks,
> -Brad
>
>
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Takeshi Yamamoto wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In response to the following topic (i.e., what are good
>> candidates for user forums/platforms other than SourceForge),
>>
>> https://github.com/chapel-lang/chapel/issues/6440
>>
>> I have tried searching the net and it seems to me
>> that the situation is roughly like the following:
>>
>> * Pattern 1 : The language website itself provides
>> a "built-in" forum.
>>
>> * Pattern 2 : Google Groups
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview
>>
>> * Pattern 3 : Discourse
>> https://www.discourse.org/
>>
>> * Pattern 4 : Github issue pages
>>
>> (*) Pattern 5: (more "chat-like" services like Reddit, Gitter,
>> HackerNews (?)...)
>>
>> -----
>>
>> And various pages found for each language...
>>
>> * C++
>> https://isocpp.org/forums
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/std-discussion
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/std-proposals
>>
>> * D
>> https://forum.dlang.org/
>> http://digitalmars.com/NewsGroup.html   (old page?)
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3592769
>> (old news about the new forum)
>>
>> * Go
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/golang-nuts
>> https://forum.golangbridge.org/
>> https://forum.golangbridge.org/t/welcome-to-the-go-forum/8
>> https://golang.org/help/
>>
>> * Rust
>> https://users.rust-lang.org/
>>
>> * Nim
>> https://forum.nim-lang.org/
>> https://github.com/nim-lang/nimforum (run by this program?)
>>
>> * Julia
>> https://julialang.org/community/
>> https://discourse.julialang.org/
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/julia-users (not used now)
>> https://gitter.im/JuliaLang/julia
>>
>> * Python
>> I'm not sure which is the "official" forum... :-)
>>
>> * Fortran
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.fortran
>>
>> * Swift
>> https://forums.developer.apple.com/community/xcode/swift
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/swift/
>>
>> * C#
>> A lot ... (from Microsoft)
>>
>> * Kotlin
>> https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/
>> https://kotlinlang.org/community/
>>
>> * Scala
>> https://www.scala-lang.org/community/
>>
>> https://users.scala-lang.org/?_ga=2.236677193.918504109.1498691960-1666919074.1495278134
>>
>> https://contributors.scala-lang.org/?_ga=2.200825261.283844884.1498692014-1666919074.1495278134
>> https://gitter.im/scala/scala
>>
>> ------
>>
>> As for my experience, I used Google Groups sometimes to
>> ask questions and feature requests before. IMO, a good point
>> of Google Groups is that the "(mental) threshold" for posting
>> something is very low (and, depending on moderation setting,
>> also attracts spam!). A not very good point is that it does not
>> support Markdown etc, so the feature is not very rich.
>>
>> # But looking at the Google Group pages for C++ and Go,
>> code decoration might be possible to some extent
>> because some people post a code in an enclosed box etc.
>>
>> As for Discourse, I have no experience of using it (e.g.
>> ask questions etc), but its features seem pretty rich.
>> Many languages seem to be using it recently (sometimes
>> together with Google Groups).
>>
>> IMHO, I feel it would be very nice if there is some central
>> forum(s) at which users can post almost "anything" (trivial
>> questions, feature requests, news, etc) at a much lower
>> level of strictness and threshold to write something.
>> In particular, I think it would be great if more user <-> user
>> discussion will be made in addition to user <-> developer
>> or developer <-> developer discussions (because
>> user <-> user discussions are not much suited to, say,
>> Github issue pages nor StackOverflow.)
>>
>> # This user mailing list (from SourceForge) is also probably
>> desinged for that purpose (partly for user <-> user), but
>> but a threshold or ovehead for posting something might
>> be somewhat higher than usual web-based forums.
>>
>> As for the desired features listed in
>> https://github.com/chapel-lang/chapel/issues/6440
>>
>> -- ideally, an easy way to preserve the SourceForge mailing list archives
>>
>> I have no idea whether Google Groups or Discourse offer
>> a "migration" feature like this... But as a simple workaround,
>> it might be sufficient to put a URL link to the SourceForge mailing
>> list page, e.g., at the top of new forum pages or an introduction
>> page to facilitate the search for old topics?
>>
>> # I will copy (some of) the above URL if necessary to the Github
>> issue page (6440); in that case please let me know.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Takeshi
>>
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