This might explain the difficulty some students have - finding another
number to add to five, to get ten.

Thanks,

-- 
Raul

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:55 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is only one number 5 in pure mathematics.  It is kept locked in a 
> cabinet in a secret laboratory in Paris, along with the international 
> kilogram.  We may use names like 'five' or 'cinco' or 'Fuenf' to help us 
> count or measure or balance our checkbook, but these uses of names are 
> distinct from the number itself.
>
> That probably didn't help.
>
> --Kip
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> A fair reason for the outer enclosing box is that in math a list and a set 
>>> are different.
>>
>> But in math a 5 and a 5 can be different, for example if one of them
>> is feet and the other is seconds, or in any of a variety of other
>> circumstances. (For example, one might be a constant and another might
>> be a non-unique valid example of an otherwise free variable.)
>>
>> On the other hand, we can use five apples to represent five seconds,
>> for example in a classroom discussion where we need a placeholder as a
>> part of the discussion. Or, perhaps a different kind of seconds if we
>> are talking about a second helping of dessert?
>>
>> These distinctions though, appear in our uses of language rather than
>> in the language itself.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Raul
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