H Brian,

If you are using Safari, you can get access to the developer tools, but you 
first need to go to Safari Preferences and make sure the box for Show Developer 
Menu is checked in Advanced Settings. Then select Show Web Inspector for a 
split window of behind the scenes on the webpage you are viewing.

Also, if you are creating the web pages from scratch and not through JHS then 
there is probably not any CSS being created to accompany your page. I don't 
think the default would be to make objects invisible but the display will 
certainly be different if the html is accompanied by a different CSS file.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, bob

On Feb 4, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm taking this to the chat forum because it's not really about J
> programming at the moment.
> 
> Another thing to try, if you are using chrome or a similar browser
> (safari should be similar) is: inspect the document object model.
> 
> In Chrome, this would be: right click on the page, select Inspect
> Element... and then search for the text (control-F under windows, osx
> is probably cmd-F). If it's not there, that means one thing. If it is
> there, select it then look through the styles on the right hand side
> to see if that text (or a parent element) has a style such as display:
> none (which would make it invisible).
> 
> In other words, my current question is: is the missing part of the
> document really missing? or is it just invisible?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Raul
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Brian Schott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Another difference that I did not mention is that the JHS html code has a
>> fancy <body>, while the native html has a simple <body>. The fancy one is
>> below.
>> 
>> <body onload="jevload();" onunload="jevunload();" onfocus="jevfocus();">
>> 
>> 
>> 
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