Hi Jon,

I dunno, you sound pretty troll-like to me. :-)

I have cross posted this to the chat forum, as I agree with Raul that the wider 
discussion fits chat better than programming. 

I think that the legacy of APL and the corporations that use it makes that 
language a 'safer' alternative for executives who need to resolve support and 
continuity issues (a version of 'nobody ever got fired for buying IBM'). I 
think APL faces similar challenges in the wider world of programming, and for 
both J and APL, what can overcome management's hesitancy is the fact that these 
languages can provide better solutions.

My observations from outside the trenches (hoping not to have offended anyone 
who really knows the situation).

Cheers, bob
  
On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Jon Hough <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for replying. 
> I have checked out Dyalog's website and another company called MicroAPL 
> (IIRC).That was actually what spawned my question (point taken, maybe wrong 
> forum).It seems there are some companies doing a lot with APL variants, and 
> what my question was edging towards was why haven't these guys switched to J, 
> legacy code maintenance aside? (I tried to phrase it more diplomatically, for 
> fear of being labeled a troll).
> 
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 01:57:01 -0400
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J and APL
>> 
>> This is probably the wrong forum for this conversation, so I'll just
>> recommend you spend a few minutes over at http://dyalog.com/
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Raul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Jon Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Although I no zero APL, I understand that J was born from APL with an
>>> ASCII character set and some ideas from Backus' languages.
>>> And I am aware many J programmers are also APL programmers.
>>> So do modern APL dialects provide any functionality not included in J?
>>> For example, or counterexample, I do not think APL has forks and hooks,
>>> Which add a lot of flexibility to J.
>>> The point of the question, being blunt but not wanting to offend anyone,
>>> is there any technical reason one might choose to write a new app in APL
>>> rather than J?
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