I think it's safe to say that the curiosity is there, and that it stalls out quickly.
I'm not sure how to solve that - nor even if it should be solved. There's probably more important things to worry about. Still, it's nice to notice other people who appreciate these kinds of ideas. Thanks, -- Raul On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Vijay - > > Thanks for the sharing your views. It's always good to hear from new > enthusiasts. Those of us who have been doing this for a long time > sometimes feel like we're shouting into the wind, so it's good to feel that > the community's efforts are appreciated. > > I especially appreciate your acknowledgement that much of what we do in > other languages and environments constitutes wasting our time on minutiae. > I have to work in other languages because of work - though I do some J here > as well - and feel very keenly the time wasted when I have to code up a > five- or ten-character J solution in ten or twenty lines of code. > > I was recently perusing the J contributions on "dailyprogrammer" (e.g. > http://www.reddit.com/r/dailyprogrammer/comments/2rfae0/20150105_challenge_196_practical_exercise_ready/) > from "Godspiral" and, comparing the his few lines of J to others' pages of > C++ or Java, I remain astonished that this disparity doesn't raise more > curiosity about J. > > Regards, > > Devon > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Vijay Lulla <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I came across the below article by the way of Hacker News. >> http://brookeallen.com/pages/archives/1234 >> >> I'd like to share a couple of my views about J community. I came across J >> sometime in 2012 by the way of projecteuler.net. As I learned a little bit >> of the J language I realized that I was spending (wasting?) a lot of time >> on minutiae in other languages/environments! I kept at it and now J is my >> favorite language and I use it almost daily. There are a couple of things >> very unique about J: the awesome community, and the amount of interesting >> material that this community has generated. >> >> I'm also very impressed with the community's interest in always tying many >> lessons/insights to its roots. This is unique, at least IMO to J (probably >> to APL too but I couldn't say since I've not used it). And the more I read >> about people like Ken Iverson, Ian Sharp, and Eugene McDonnell I'm even >> more impressed. These guys could not help being geniuses...but they chose >> to be excellent human beings (Ken Iverson's gesture of dingy bills >> [mentioned in Beginnings in http://keiapl.org/rhui/remember.htm], Ian >> Sharp's overall attitude [as listed in >> http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/IPSA50.htm], and McDonnell's efforts to >> make J accessible/fun)! I don't think I can find better role models (in >> programming and real life) to emulate. >> >> I don't know why I felt compelled to share this with all of you. I guess, >> just to tell you that all your work/efforts have impacted me, very >> positively, and I appreciate it, as I'm sure many others do, very much. >> >> Thanks, >> Vijay. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > > -- > Devon McCormick, CFA > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
