I'm sure Java is no friend to this forum. But, assuming "before popularity Java" to be ~1996 to 2000, are you saying the language became worse after that? Is it because you think too much was added and it became too complex?

On 08/01/2016 01:21 PM, William Tanksley, Jr wrote:
Java. Ugh.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:02 AM Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]> wrote:

I will not question the general premise; that in some situations
popularity can cause more problems than it can fix. But to make things
more concrete can you give an account of a programming language that
suffered from a glut popularity?

On 08/01/2016 10:42 AM, Raul Miller wrote:
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]>
wrote:
I would not automatically discount popularity. Usually, the more viral a
language is, the more people there are working to improve it and the
faster
it matures. Also, there are more libraries and better interoperability
with
other languages and environments. All of which in turn increases
popularity.
The question is which must come first, the chicken or the egg?

You can't ignore popularity.

But it's a tool, and one that destroys approximately as much as it
creates.

So one of the tricks is: how do you keep things working while
supporting all the people who are jumping on the popularity train?
That is not always easy.

Thanks,

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