In general it is a good practice to let a filter sort the post to different boxes
On 10 Jan 2018 21:24, "Antony McCardell" <t...@antonymccardell.com> wrote: > Hi Chris > > I need urgently to unsubscribe to J chat. Currently I am unable to > participate and my mailbox is becoming overloaded with J chat messages. I > cannot see an "unsubscribe" button anyway. Can you please point me in the > right direction? > > Thanks > > Tony > > > On 11/01/2018 12:21 AM, chris burke wrote: > >> After the fom editor was dropped we have been struggling. >>> >> The old form editor was needed because in the old days, there was no >> layout >> manager in the UI so controls had to be given an exact position on a form. >> Fine-tuning this manually would have been tedious. However, there were >> still problems, for example the layout that worked fine on one resolution >> or OS may not have worked on another. I remember spending a great deal of >> time on manually fixing up form editor output so forms worked properly >> everywhere. >> >> However, Qt has a nice layout manager. Control positioning is easy and >> just >> works in all platforms. >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I can understand the appeal of the WYSIWYG aspect of the old form editor, >>> but I much prefer the current system for designing and building forms. I >>> spend much less time aligning controls perfectly and the form resizing >>> behaviour is much better. >>> >>> As for the cross-platform experience, there is no contest - the current >>> WD >>> implementation is far superior in terms of functionality, reliability and >>> appearance. >>> >>> I'm sure that the state of flux of GUI development from J6.02 to J8 >>> didn't >>> help foster a plethora of GUI apps, but I think the paucity of GUI apps >>> is >>> primarily due to the focus of the majority of users than the facilities >>> of >>> the language. >>> >>> The GUI's I've developed are far from complex, but I've found them >>> relatively easy and satisfying to build, and compare favourably with >>> those >>> of most other languages for GUI-based tasks on Rosetta code. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> J used to be great at making guis and had the best form editor on the >>>> market. >>>> After the fom editor was dropped we have been struggling. >>>> I would love to have easier ways to create guis. >>>> >>>> On 9 Jan 2018 18:57, "Dabrowski, Andrew John" <dabro...@indiana.edu> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So it seems that J is not a self-contained language for making GUIs: you >>>> also need to know either html and js or qt. Clojure has the significant >>>> advantage that the GUI code is in idiomatic Clojure. >>>> >>>> All I said was that J isn't a _good_ language for creating GUIs when >>>> compared with Clojure, Python, or Java for example. I would have >>>> thought >>>> that would be uncontroversial: in fact there are very few examples of >>>> >>> GUIs >>> >>>> in the repo, and none are elaborate. Evidently no one in the J >>>> community >>>> places a very high value on GUIs. >>>> >>>> Which is fine, not every language needs to be great at facilitating the >>>> construction of GUIs, there's a place for scripting languages. I'm >>>> happy >>>> to grant J the distinction of being a superb calculation and scripting >>>> language, but for GUIs it happens to be mediocre. >>>> >>>> On 01/09/2018 03:02 AM, Björn Helgason wrote: >>>> >>>> JHS is using HTML as a front end. >>>> There are numerous ways of interacting with HTML tools. >>>> You can see examples and demos doing gui/graphics etc and mixing with >>>> javascripts. >>>> It may be difficult to distinguish between what is J/Javascript. >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2018 22:13, "Dabrowski, Andrew John" <dabro...@indiana.edu >>>> >>>>> <mailto: >>>>> >>>> dabro...@indiana.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> After reading "Algebra as Language" and "Computers and Mathematical >>>> Notation", I'm starting to see J the perfect language for numerical >>>> computation. But for general purpose programming I can see Dijkstra's >>>> point. >>>> >>>> When APL was designed computers were seen largely as calculating >>>> machines. But by the 1970s GUIs were starting to be developed, and >>>> computers were being applied in areas where tensors were no longer >>>> >>> adequate >>> >>>> as the sole data structure. One thing general purpose programming >>>> languages must have is extensibility, and that J lacks. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to work out what the appropriate use cases are for J, and I >>>> think it's calculating with tensors. If you need more than tensors, or >>>> >>> if >>> >>>> you need more than calculation (e.g. GUIs), J is not a good choice. >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
