> Ok I looked this up:
...
> a discrete-time martingale is a discrete-time stochastic process (i.e., a

Right, I was referring to a martingale sequence in the context of the
weak-form of the EMH.

The weak-form information refers to technical analysis which, usually, is
based on historical security prices.  Some consider volumes, in addition to
historical prices, as part of the technical analysis information.  In such
a case,

> One form to present it is as follows: a random walk model stating that
the sequence of (discounted) security prices is a martingale would support
the weak-form of the EMH.
>

should be amended as follows:

A random walk model stating that the sequence of (discounted) security
prices is a martingale, with respect to the joint sequence of security
prices and volumes, would support the weak-form of the EMH.

> Koch Industries Inc.had the power to game and manipulate markets from
both the speculative and physical ends—something that even the most
powerful investment houses can’t do on their own.

Let us assume, for the sake of the argument, that it has been firmly
established that, what you state, is actually the case.  It would not
matter much anyway because many markets are very liquid and the difference
between the bid and ask prices are very tight and the transaction costs are
very low.  Thus, again, if one perceives, for example, that a future energy
contract is underpriced (overpriced), due to manipulation, then one could
buy  (sell) it and expect to sell (buy) it at a higher (lower) price later
with the expectation of generating a profit (unless one has a paranoid
belief that after one places a trade the market will be manipulated just to
hurt one's trade).

> Best part is: only insiders know how much or how little manipulation
exists because the derivatives are exempted from regulation.

Some derivatives are and some are not exempted.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:46 PM Donna Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ok I looked this up:
>
> > Originally, martingale <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)> referred to a
class of betting strategies <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_strategy>
that was popular in 18th-century France <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France>.[1] <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(probability_theory)#cite_note-1>[2]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(probability_theory)#cite_note-2>
The simplest of these strategies was designed for a game in which the
gambler <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler> wins their stake if a coin
comes up heads and loses it if the coin comes up tails. The strategy had
the gambler double their bet after every loss so that the first win would
recover all previous losses plus win a profit equal to the original stake.
As the gambler's wealth and available time jointly approach infinity, their
probability of eventually flipping heads approaches 1, which makes the
martingale betting strategy seem like a sure thing <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_surely>. However, the exponential
growth <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth> of the bets
eventually bankrupts its users due to finite bankrolls.
>
> a discrete-time martingale is a discrete-time stochastic process (i.e., a
sequence of random variables)… ...the conditional expected value of the
next observation, given all the past observations, is equal to the most
recent observation
>
> I should have used conditional expected value instead of saying the
random walk model predicts. A random walk model is a Martingale.
>
> > Equivalent Martingale Measures is a probability distribution that shows
possible expected payouts from an investment adjusted for an investor's
degree of risk aversion. In an efficient market, this present value
calculation should be equal to the price at which the security is currently
trading. Equivalent martingale measures are most commonly used in the
pricing of derivative securities, because this is the most common case of a
security type which has several discrete, contingent payouts.
>
> I don’t have any experience with other than what happened with Enron and
Entergy-Koch. Koch Industries Inc.had the power to game and manipulate
markets from both the speculative and physical ends—something that even the
most powerful investment houses can’t do on their own. Best part is: only
insiders know how much or how little manipulation exists because the
derivatives are exempted from regulation.
>
> David Koch died today.
>
> > After David's death, his nephew Chase, the son of Charles, is in line
to take his uncle's place as a key figure in the Koch network.
>
>
>  Donna Y
> [email protected]
>
>
> > On Aug 22, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Donna Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Depending on what someone's concept of "predicts" might be, the phrase
> >> above could induce a misconception.  One form to present it is as
follows:
> >> a random walk model stating that the sequence of (discounted) security
> >> prices is a martingale would support the weak-form of the EMH.
>
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