Good idea, Raul.

But then the article is better entitled: NuVoc Style Guide.

I'll experiment and see what it looks like.

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 15:29, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> The reasons for that AboutNuVoc page might fit on its discussion page?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:51 AM Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It's over 20 years since I was a novice use. But last Sunday (31 Aug) I
> > came as close to it as I'll ever get again.
> >
> > I needed to understand someone else's code for an app I'm writing. He
> used
> > a primitive: Map ({::) which I was unfamiliar with, so I turned to NuVoc
> to
> > grok his use of it.
> >
> > Shock-horror! I found the page opaque and baffling to read. Embarrassing,
> > because I'd originally written it.
> >
> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/curlylfcoco
> >
> > My problem stemmed mainly from the wording and code layout. It did not
> > conform to the rules Henry and I tried to keep to when writing NuVoc. So
> I
> > spent an evening fixing it.
> >
> > But my embarrassment wasn't over. The following day I was alerted by
> > MediaWiki to a fellow Nuvocian reverting all my changes.
> >
> > Out of malice? Perish the thought.
> >
> > A blunder out of inexperience? Maybe.
> >
> > Because they thought the page "looked better" as it was? Now that's more
> > likely.
> >
> > The point is, I don't know. And I don't like conjecturing another
> person's
> > motives.
> >
> > Now I don't "own" j wiki, far less NuVoc. When people ask my permission
> to
> > change a page, I tell them to just do it, and let's see who hollers.
> >
> > But I'm grateful this has happened. It exposes holes in our co-operative
> > working methods…
> >
> > 1. There's a discussion page attached to each wiki page.
> > We use it nowhere near enough. It's the ideal place to explain our
> reasons
> > for doing something controversial, like trashing another NuVocian's hard
> > work.
> >
> > 2. NuVoc was written to rules, but nowhere are these rules clearly
> stated.
> > That's something I'm going to fix.
> >
> > Yes, we already have:
> > About the Accessible Dictionary: how and why
> > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AboutNuVoc
> > But nobody looking for a NuVoc style guide would think of reading it. And
> > it's not fit-for-purpose. It needs to be snappier, omitting reasons and
> > simply stating the rules we used.
> >
> > Meanwhile I'll restore my edits. And invite my redactor to engage with me
> > on the Discussion page of Map ({::).
> >
> > Ian Clark
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