On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 10:05:05PM -0700, Mr. Bad wrote:
> >>>>> "MJR" == Mark J Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> MJR> Yeah, I know that. I was commenting on your double standard,
> MJR> where it's acceptable for users of your software to waive
> MJR> their right to sue you for damages, but "totally reckless and
> MJR> stupid" for Sun's users to do the same.
>
> The GPL non-warranty says that users can't sue me. It's a repudiation
> of liability, to the extent possible in law. The JRE license says that
> we (collectively) accept liability for problems with the *JRE*, not
> with Fred.
>
> "you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from
> and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement
> amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred
> in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third
> party that arises or results from the use or distribution of
> any and all Programs and/or Software."
>
> ("Programs" = our stuff, "Software" = Sun stuff). That means that we
> are responsible if there is any problems with the JRE -- even separate
> from the use of Fred.
However, can we not simply make it a part of _our_ license agreement that
they agree to indemnify us w/r/to problems resulting from the JRE as well
as Fred?
> MJR> Or were you demanding that your users do a reckless and
> MJR> stupid thing?
>
> I demand that they do 6 reckless and stupid things before
> breakfast.
And that constitutes a token we can use to send you freenet email?
--
# tavin cole
#
# "The process of scientific discovery is, in effect,
# a continual flight from wonder."
# - Albert Einstein
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