On Wed, 2 May 2001 06:22:20 -0400 Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

> I believe that the START command is equivalent to "nohup ... &" in 
> the
> Unix world -- i.e., it runs a program in the background.  Or 
> something
> like that.

I've only used Linux/Unix in a very limited way, I didn't get as in depth
as I wanted to.  And so I don't know all of the different commands and
programs that the Unix world uses.

> 
> > There is no "start" command in DOS or Windows that I have ever 
> seen.
> 
> It definitely exists in some versions of Windows (at least NT).  
> I've
> seen references to it before....

I am really amazed that I do in fact have a start.exe file in my
windows/command directory.  But is it usefull in DOS mode?  I wonder if
this program exists in Win95a.  Here is the command line output:

C:\>start -?
Runs a Windows program or an MS-DOS program.

START [options] program [arg...]
START [options] document.ext

/m[inimized] Run the new program minimized (in the background).
/max[imized] Run the new program maximized (in the foreground).
/r[estored]  Run the new program restored (in the foreground). [default]
/w[ait]      Does not return until the other program exits.

> That's untrue.  DOS can (and frequently *does*) have multiple TSRs 
> in
> memory at once.  Use the MEM command to see them.

The following modules in memory are being listed from Win95b's DOS CLI
window.  If I listed the modules in memory before being booted into
windows most of these would be there.  So, yes, I guess you can have
multiple programs in memory at once, but I don't know how many programs
like Mouse.com can be put into DOS's memory system at once.

Mouse is the only program that isn't started by the system or by
config.sys.  So, can you start multiple programs in the background when
they aren't designed to be TSRs?  Mouse is designed to be a TSR, but
other programs like Doom or Laplink III are not supposed to be TSRs.  And
what about task swapping?  DOS, as far as I know, does not support task
swapping, switching from one running task to another running task like on
Unix/Linux.  Is it possible that DOS 7 can do this?

Modules using memory below 1 MB:

  Name           Total           Conventional       Upper Memory
  --------  ----------------   ----------------   ----------------
  SYSTEM      34,000   (33K)      9,744   (10K)     24,256   (24K)
  HIMEM        1,168    (1K)      1,168    (1K)          0    (0K)
  EMM386       4,320    (4K)      4,320    (4K)          0    (0K)
  COMMAND      7,280    (7K)         80    (0K)      7,200    (7K)
  WIN          2,480    (2K)      2,480    (2K)          0    (0K)
  vmm32       13,584   (13K)      6,816    (7K)      6,768    (7K)
  COMMAND      8,064    (8K)      1,056    (1K)      7,008    (7K)
  ANSI         4,320    (4K)          0    (0K)      4,320    (4K)
  IFSHLP       2,864    (3K)          0    (0K)      2,864    (3K)
  SETVER         832    (1K)          0    (0K)        832    (1K)
  DOSKEY       4,688    (5K)          0    (0K)      4,688    (5K)
  MOUSE       17,280   (17K)          0    (0K)     17,280   (17K)
  Free       638,608  (624K)    621,040  (606K)     17,568   (17K)

> 
> > > > for %f in ( *.* *\*.* ... ) do rem %f
> 
> > Yes, as far as I can tell, it does not recurse the directories.  
> DARN
> > IT!!!
> 
> Try installing the Unix tools -- either DJGPP's set, or Cygwin's 
> set.
> Then you can write shell scripts (subject to DOS limitations on 
> file
> names, lack of "fork()" in the DJGPP toolkit which is DOS-based, 
> etc.).
> 

If you can give me links to websites or files, that would be great. :)  I
just tried to get to Steve's Key Index and it wouldn't load up.  GRR!!!

> In a Unix shell, your command would look something like:
> 
>   find . -print | while read f; do blah blah $f; done
> 
> (And you can do more subtle constructions using "xargs", etc.)

I don't know what you are talking about here, I don't remember enough
about Unix to be able to do this.
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