On Thu, 31 May 2001 02:14:53 -0500 "Mathew Ryden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Are we talking about PGP or UC2 here? If pgp, you either have a very 
> slow
> computer or I'm shocked at norton for having such an unoptomized 
> algorithm.

I was talking about UC2 which uses MD5 hash.

> 
> > But is Triple-DES better at encrypting useing SHA1 hash than the 
> current
> > CAST algorithm?
> 
> No. Assuming Triple-DES is at 112 bits and CAST is at 128, CAST is 
> better.
> Especially if you assume that the NSA is still years ahead of the 
> non-gov't
> crypto world - they probably have made breaking triple-DES trivial 
> (DES is
> already trivial).

Hmm, yes I can see how more bits makes it harder to figure out the
encryption key.

> 
> > I ask because Triple-DES does this neat thing where it Encrypts 
> with
> > Rand1, Decrypts with Rand2 and Encrypts again with Rand1, makeing 
> it
> > totaly freaking impossible to break the encryption.  I think it is 
> a VERY
> > strong encryption method.
> 
> it's fairly strong for documents you don't mind being readable quite 
> soon. a
> triple-des encrypted file is still only as secure as the key that 
> encrypts
> it - in this case the key is Rand1 . Rand2. Assuming that they are 
> both 56
> bit keys (as are all DES keys if memory serves) then Triple-DES gives 
> you
> 112 bits of security (becuase you reuse a key it doesn't make the 
> security
> any stronger on key attacks).

Well I don't know how many bits Rand1 and Rand2 are, but I do know that
they are generated by MD5 based on the password and the archive being
encrypted.

> Hash is, by defination, the same for any file. Encrypting and 
> decrypting
> both occur in linear time, correct.
> 
> -Mathew

Yes, linear, one right after the other, no weird temporal mechanics
required. :)
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