[Crossposting to chat, where this belongs]

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Morken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 7:47 PM
Subject: [freenet-devl] Re: Intel Freenet


> Hi all,
>
> >You should also note that Ian's been very good about keeping Uprizer
> and the Freenet Project as very, very separate entities. If you have a
> question about the terms of Intel's investment in Uprizer, I'd suggest
> you call or email them. I'd be greatly surprised if they wanted to
> reveal their contractual obligations to you, a third party, but you're
> welcome to try.
>
> Well Mr. Bad I think that it is important to minimize corporate influence
in
> an opensource project which advocates freedom.  I find it interesting that
> freenet is advocating free speech while Intel is building a company for
the
> Freenet project leader.  Once the code is in the hands of Uprizer/Intel
does
> it no longer advocate free speech and is it no longer opensource?

If I read this interview correctly
(http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/05/05/uprizer.html), Uprizer is only
doing things tangently related to Freenet (basicly, the Freenet we all know
and love without the anonymity requirement, which would cause a great boost
in efficency).

Uprizer has done some things to help the core Freenet development in the
past (such as hosting the mailing lists), but as Mr. Bad points out, Uprizer
and the Freenet Project, Inc. non-profit are seperate entities, and Ian has
been very good about keeping it that way.  What Uprizer does is their own
buissness, and frankly, we are not obligated to them in any way.

>  Will
> Intel "contractual obligation" additions to the code be made public?
Maybe
> you don't recall Intel's history of putting unique identifiers into its
PIII
> processors but I do! :)

That was bad, and they did back down once enough pressure was placed on
them.  Note that at the same time, they added a hardware random number
generator to their chipsets, which could be a massive boost for
cryptographic applications.  AFAIK, AMD has not added any such ability to
their chips.

(Even so, my last major upgrade was to an AMD, and my next one probably will
be, too).


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