Rob Cakebread ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 July 2001 03:26 pm, you [Greg Wooledge] wrote:
>> [...]
> I had sexual desires when I was 10. Before that, I dont't remember.
> Babies masturbate, so don't tell me children don't have sexual desires.
Very well, based on your and David's statements, I retract that part.
> > > What parent out there can come
> > > up with a good reason to give their kid access to porn?
OK, nitpick #1: giving them access to porn is not the same as giving them
porn.
Here's my reason: the alternative (censorship) is worse. I would rather
let my children explore the Internet than a walled-off subset thereof.
Pixels and sonic vibrations are not harmful. The ideas they convey may
be confusing to children, which is why my wife and I are here with them.
They're certainly too young to be left unsupervised!
Of course, as I said earlier, this specific issue hasn't come up yet,
because my 5- and 7-year-olds have shown no inclination to seek erotic
material on the Internet yet.
> > Later, I'm sure he'll use the Internet to look at pictures of nude or
> > scantily clad women (or even men). I don't see a problem with that.
> Later? So now you define an age range.
Whenever he is ready to search for erotic material, I'm sure he will find
it. (He already knows how to use Google.) I'm guessing he will be about
12 at the time, but it might happen sooner. (My 7-year-old is mildly
autistic, so his development is not at the rate of a "normal" child.)
My 5-year-old is more "normal", so he may actually be the first one to
bring this issue to my immediate attention.
> They do have a natural hormone-driven desire
> to have sex. Giving them porn will just increase the rate of child
> pregnancy and children with STDs.
Nitpick #2: please define 'porn'. David offered a definition that I've
never heard before. In this message, I'm switching to the phrase "erotic
material" to more clearly state what I'm talking about.
I'll also give an example: <http://www.sexuality.org/>. I consider that
one of the best sites on the entire World Wide Web.
I see no basis for your argument. If anything, I'd expect to see the
opposite -- giving them access to erotic material (especially of the
more educational variety) is likely to lead to higher self-esteem and a
greater awareness of the nature of sex and its consequences. I'd expect
an increase in masturbation, and a decrease in the guilt associated with
it by our society.
Pregnancy and STDs would require a partner, which is not something
they're going to find by watching movies and masturbating!
> > For that matter, have you forgotten what the girls looked like when you
> > were in school? (Or were you unfortunate enough to have been forced to
> > attend a school that only admitted students of one sex?) Some of the
> > girls I went to school with were quite arousing even fully clothed.
> And how would you like your child hanging out with a child he/she found
> arousing and they watched porno movies together?
I expect that by the time my sons start dating, they'll keep their
activities largely secret from me. If they tell me they went to see a
movie, I'd probably assume it was something a bit more mainstream.
My wife and I never watched erotic movies together while we were dating;
if one of my sons were to find a young woman willing to do that, I'd
quite frankly be a bit envious. I think the odds of that occurring are
a bit low, however, given what I know of young (high-school-aged) women.
Maybe I'm mistaken and there are hordes of sexually open young women out
there eager to watch erotic movies with young men -- but I was never
fortunate enough to meet any of them.
(I'm assuming my sons will be heterosexual. So far they've both shown
signs of being attracted to girls.)
> Your children need to see Jenna Jaimeson get gang banged by two
> guys and a girl while 7 others wait their turn in line to learn 'interaction
> with members of the opposite sex'... ?
Wow, your taste in erotic material is vastly different from mine,
it seems!
Perhaps something from http://www.bluedoor.com/ would be a bit more
suitable for the rest of us.
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