Eric S. Raymond, one of the ring-leaders of the Open Source movement.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Timm Murray' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: [freenet-chat] RE: open source trademark


>Who's ESR?  I hope they attract attention to my web site, I could care less
>about their political views.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Timm Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:50 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] RE: open source trademark
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>Way to go, Josh.  ESR and his cronies are going to have a field day over
>your license.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'Russell Nelson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:23 PM
>Subject: [freenet-chat] RE: open source trademark
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>>Thank you for the reply. I'm glad to know that open source is not a
>>trademark, therefore I will submit my license per your instructions, and
if
>>you guys approve it (if), then I will return to using the "open source"
>>words.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:54 PM
>>To: Josh
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: open source trademark
>>
>>Josh writes:
>> > Hello, I'm a developer in need of a custom open source license. It came
>>to
>> > my attention that "open source" is a registered trademark of your
>> > organization.
>>
>>We've given up on that idea.  It's not a defendable trademark.  We do
>>maintain a certification mark, "OSI Certified Open Source", which we
>>apply to any software using an approved license.
>>
>> > I've designed a global file system. As such, it cannot succeed if there
>>are
>> > a dozen flavors of the same basic design floating around. It's
essential
>> > that I maintain a degree of management over my design, yet as an open
>> > standard it must be "open" source.
>>
>>Best thing to do then is establish your own certification trademark,
>>and deny its use to anyone who is not interoperable.
>>
>> > I am patent pending, just so somebody else can't patent it.
>>
>>All you have to do is publish the ideas in print.
>>
>> > Yet I intend to release the design royalty free, and open source.
>> > Therefore I wrote my own version of the GNU license
>> > (www.mercuryfs.net/license.htm. It's not ready for prime time, but
>> > it's all I got at the moment.
>>
>>If you're asking us to approve it, the procedure is given at
>>http://opensource.org/docs/certification_mark.html
>>
>>--
>>-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
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