Ok, posting this is a mistake, but I feel compelled to defend myself, so I will do only that. Appologies to Mr. Findley for the doublpost because I have once again failed to reply to the list :P
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You take me seriously? How am I suppose to take you > seriously. > You are LITERALLY spouting nonsense. > --"Misprison of a Felony" (18 U.S.C.A 4.). > Misprison isn't even a word! >From the DOJ's website, here are some links. The skeptical reader can do a google search and see for themselves: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/mn/press/major/boss.htm http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/pae/News/Pr/2004/jul/broadus%202d%20Superceding%20Indictmnt.pdf http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txn/PressRel03/murphy_kirkham_convict_pr.html http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txn/PressRel03/phillips_sen_pr.html http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/lae/hotnews/archive_list.htm http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/cac/pr2002/165.html http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txn/PressRel02/patel_sen_pr.html http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/tnm/press_release/4_9_04.htm http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/publicaffairs/NJ_Press/files/pdffiles/ashcroftregpay.pdf > The is no chapter 4 in title 18. > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/pI.html I'm not a lawyer, but the DOJ did charge the people in the above links with some crime called "Misprison of a Felony" so it must be a law somewhere :) > > "Also, you can't be charged for committing the crime > and also NOT STOPPING YOURSELF COMMITTING SAID > CRIME! That would be double jeopardy, wouldn't it?" > God no.... double jeopardy is being charged with > the same crime twice. In other words, the > prosecution doesn't get to appeal if they lose. > And you can't even be charged with not stopping > yourself from committing a crime (negligence crimes > not withstanding). You'd just be charged with what > ever crime you committed. Like I said, I'm not a lawyer. Whatever this is called, it's still contrary to the fifth amendment. If you are trying to discredit my expertise as a lawyer, then I concede. I'm no lawyer :) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] > Showdown at the > Freenode Coral > Importance: Low > > > Well, I had to respond to this after having it > pointed > out. > --- Matthew Findley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This is not my position and I have already > answered > > this almost exact > > situation. > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support/5067 > > Try to keep up. > > It's not a crime to know that a crime is happening > > and failing to take > > action. > Wrong. A few minutes on google and I found this > law: > "Misprison of a Felony" (18 U.S.C.A 4.). Of course > there is the little issue of meeting the elements of > the crime, but that doesn't seem to be a big deal > for > you when it comes to Freenet. > > > It's a crime if you know your committing a crime > and > > fail to take action. > LOL! So if you commit a crime, it's OK for others > not > to take action, but if YOU don't take action against > YORSELF then you are breaking the law?! This > statement is totally backwards. Also, you can't be > charged for committing the crime and also NOT > STOPPING > YOURSELF COMMITTING SAID CRIME! That would be > double > jeopardy, wouldn't it? Do you still insist I take > you > seriouly? Don't answer! In the future I intend to > exercise more restraint and will not reply to any > posts by you no matter how tempted I am. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:47 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] > > Showdown at the Freenode > > Coral > > Importance: Low > > > > > > --- ZeZenonaPanoussisfrfreenetrovocation.net> > wrote: > > > > >Yes, Mr Findley, your looping repetitions are > very > > >convincing. > > >I have read them again and I am convinced, you > are > > >absolutely > > >right. Now, will you please tell me why you are a > > >clerk and > > >not a prosecutor? I mean, I have four years of > law > > >school > > >behind me and six of practicing law, yet I stand > > >corrected by > > >you. Shouldn't you be promoted? Would you like me > > to > > >write a > > >letter of recommendation to your boss? > > > > > >Z > > To help demonstrate how ludicrous Mr. Findley's > > position is, consider this scenario. Imagine > there > > is > > a crack house on a street and opposite to the > house > > are apartment blocks. The drug dealers are > > committing > > their crimes in full view of these apartments > > because > > the residents do not report the illegal activity > > they > > can see from their windows. Failing to report a > > crime > > is a crime. It's practically a certainty that > > someone(s) from the apartments witnessed the > crimes > > taking place outside the crack house. According > to > > Mr. Findley's logic EVERYONE who had a view to > those > > illegal activities is a criminal! While it's > > obvious > > that one or more (or even MOST) of the residents > in > > those apapartments did witness a crime and didn't > > report it and so broke the law, Mr. Findley would > > have > > everyone thrown in jail in order to punish the > > perpetrators. Or perhaps Mr. Findley would decree > > windows are illegal since they make it possible > for > > someone to witness a crime and not report it. > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >FrFramtidenrrosomn bababianrvffrggranncochull av > > >skit. > > > Arne > AnAnka> > > _______________________________________________ > > >chat mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > hthttp/news.gmgmanerorgmgmaneetwork.frfreeneteneral > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New and Improved Yahoo! 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