[Moved from support to general] Matthew Toseland wrote: > I'm not interested in the degenerate case of 10 people who all know each > other and all connect to each other. I'm interested in scalable > darknets. Which are graphs of people, which can be large, where I > connect to my friends and my friend connects to his friends.
It's ok. I'm not arguing nothing about this. >>I frankly have a hard time figuring how this can be achieved. When 0.7 >>is out I guess you and Ian will be the only persons I could ask for >>their references, and how would you trust me? What if I have a single >>trusted reference, and he's not 24/7 online? > > As I have said, strong trust is not required at this stage. Anyone I've > ever argued with at length on email or IRC would probably be a > candidate. At least as far as getting the topology right goes. So probably the initial 0.7 darknet will be composed of people in this list and related chat channels/forums. If strong trust is not required at this stage, I would ditch all the opennet effort. Why is it not required, btw? So, what about this: we use something like GWebCache2 to get untrusted links. People can volunteer his nodes to be known (harvestable) in countries where this poses small risk currently. Simultaneously, everybody must work towards finding trusted links. Once you have enough (how many would be enough?) you change your listening port and reject untrusted links. So you go under the radar. The idea would be for the darknet to "virally" posess the opennet area. So you would have nodes in three states: Nodes with all trusted links. These would form the core darknet, with proper topology. Initially the people most devoted to freenet. The inner ring of Atlantida, one could say ;) Nodes with a mix of trusted/untrusted. These would be in a transitional stage. Nodes with only untrusted, obtained from webcache, links. These would be newcomers. The topology here would be uncertain and routing would work worse, I guess. Now, instead of saying that your node must be up for a week before getting well integrated, we'd say that you must get trusted links. I suppose this is prone to be simulated, unless I'm talking nonsense due to ignorance. _______________________________________________ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
