On 12/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having to find and install an IRC package just to connect once to the
> freenet channel for refs is a pain in the ass - so hopefully this list
> will prove useful for that purpose (I have also read where others have
> found little luck getting refs using the IRC channel, even when there
> are many people in the channel).

It's not ideal, but it's also not the intention of the darknet. The
idea is that you'll connect with friends who use it, and they'll
connect with friends etc, following the small world network principle.
However, since people aren't doing this there's a pseudo-opennet in
place in the form of #freenet-refs

> To be honest, this ref system is a rather tricky and cumbersome system,
> and arguably is rather irrelevant.  I mean, is it any more
> secure/safe/better/etc for me to have to put out a mass call for people
> I don't know to ref me, or to simply have the system establish
> connections at random?  I don't see the difference.

Possibly. It might be more likely that you'll notice one uber-node
trying to get all you connections and run a correlation attack when
you add peers manually. Probably not though.

> In any event -- does anyone want to trade refs?  If so, please email me
> directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> P.S.  Any comments on the benefits (if any) of using the freenet system
> over using Tor/Privoxy?

As in accessing fproxy? Should be easy. Routing freenet node traffic
over Tor would be slow and rather wasteful IMO as the systems
implement similar things, though Tor does have onion routing working.

-- 
Phillip Hutchings
http://www.sitharus.com/
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