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On Tuesday 05 August 2008 12:39, Chris Burge wrote:
> Sorry, my statement was intended to note that when using a digital
> transaction a credit card was used much more than digital gold carriers.
> Actually, the number one use in transferring terrorist money by Bin Laden is
> something called Hawala Banking.   It has been around in Eastern societies
> for thousands of years so there is no way they are going to nail that
> sucker.  No, this whole Real Id/KYC/grab your ankles and say please forced
> upon Americans is out of the need to control a failing global economy.  They
> know that they are *&[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the current state of the global 
> economy
> and the only way to keep it from resulting in riots is to start a gradual
> clamping down on freedoms before it all hits the fans.

I heard they had successfully shut down the major hawala networks... Brute 
force and dubious governments only too eager to please can do a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala#Hawala_after_September_11.2C_2001
> 
> Sigh...Anywho, this discussion has all inspired me to charge up Freenet
> again and try to get on the boards.  For whatever reason, I never got
> invited to be able to get on the message boards (forgot what that program is
> called) when I tried out Freenet a few months ago (I forget how many times I
> filled out the CAPTCHA...LOL).  Maybe my luck will get better this time
> around.  BTW, is there a board there or somewhere where I can get involved
> in discussions like digital gold and such forth.  Most of the ones that I
> see out there are scammers.

Personally my favourite alternative currency system is Ripple:
http://ripple.sf.net/
It doesn't necessarily provide full anonymity ... but it does have many other 
interesting properties.
> 
> Thanks and starting up Freenet now!
> 
> :)
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Volodya 
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> 
> > > nevermind that terrorists use credit
> > > cards in most cases...
> >
> > I don't have much to add to this thread, but this is a lie (are you
> > watching too
> > much Fox News by any chance?). Out of all the attackers or even supposed
> > attackers on USA or UK there wasn't a single one to my knowledge who has
> > purchased a ticket with a credit card. This information was spread to make
> > them
> > labelled as thieves in the public eyes.
> >                   - Volodya
> >
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