On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Travis Bemann wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 10:44:32AM -0700, colbyd wrote:
> > I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that elite producers will not win
> > the content-control battle.
> >
> > why?:
> >
> > 1. asymmetrical bandwidth access--consumers can't run servers; download
> > speeds much higher than ul speeds; use of virtual private networks to
> > reduce content-serving by end-users, etc.
>
> This is why we need to create are own parallel net, not just with
> things like Freenet, but with things like Ethernet, HPNA, 802.11g.
> However, this parallel net has to be patched into the "main" Internet
> in a manner that doesn't put at the mercy of the whims of cable
> companies and such - which means doing phreaking-like things such as
> connecting it to the net through regularly locating new 802.11b leaks
> (i wonder how long it'll take before they'll actually start switching
> to 802.11g - until then, their internal wireless nets are practically
> wide open, even if they do have WEP enabled, which they usually don't)
> from corporate intranets and physically modifying Internet equipment
> to surreptitiously connect it with the parallel net.  Freenet alone
> won't cut it.

What is the going price of T1 these days?

> > 7. generally, all of this aimed at information enclosure aided by the
> > expansion of intellectual property rights.
>
> Which also shows why we MUST abandon legalism.  By acknowledging
> things like intellectual property laws, you give them power over you.
> We must not only get over the squeamishness about "breaking the law,"
> but we must also abandon the whole concept of the law.  Furthermore,
> we must eliminate any idea of the "legitimacy" of the police and BSA
> thugs et al - we must view and treat them as really just a bunch of
> marauding corporate enforcers and bandits.

If you are implying that we should abandon copyright all together I
honestly do not think it needs to come to that.  What we do need to remember
is the definition of copyright as given in the US Constitution: "to
promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited
times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective
Writings and Discoveries."  See
http://www.open-spaces.com/article-v2n1-loren.php for a rather good, yet
long, article on the matter.



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