On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:11:24PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Here is quite a good response to most of the typical anti-Java gripes 
> which crop up every now and then:
> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=65374&threshold=1&commentsort=3&tid=154&mode=thread&cid=6032047

The abridged version:

> Gripe one) Java is slow: no it isn't.
Not that I don't love the discussion technique, but so far I've yet to
see java code that didn't run significantly slower than native
equivalents. 

> Gripe two) Swing is slow: no it isn't.
See gripe one.

> Gripe three) JAVA takes up too much memory: yes it does, but it
> doesn't really matter and it'll be slightly less bad soon.
Java memory performance is terrible, and saying it'll get better in
future is no excuse. It's not just the fixed base either, I've yet to
be convinced that freenet by design actually needs 120M of virtual
memory. Note that java's memory problems are also adding to it's
slowness.

But either way, let's face it, we're not going to be able to get rid
of java for freenet for the time being anyway, so this discussion
isn't going to lead to much anyway. Redirected to chat.

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