> > This issue has to be addressed by those who are > > affected by this disfunctionality of their > sexuality. > > Every single one has to get along with his life, > there > > is no general solution, although we have the > > responsability to not let our own lifes, women and > > children in this respect, be misused by > > misguided souls that refuse to treat the force > that > > gave life to us all with the necessary caution. > > This paragraph is most telling. You seem to believe > that women are > your property. "... not to let our ... women and > children ... be > misued ...". What makes you think you have a right > to tell a woman > what she may or may not do?
Nobody is my property. But as male I do certainly have responsibilty towards the women in my life. Men do initiate an act while women suport it and give birth to it, to put it generaly. This is clearly shown by the process of conception and birth of a child: the sperm of the male triggers the creation of the embryo. The role of initiating pertains also to other areas of life and implies the decision what should be iniciated, therein inherent is a huge amount of responsability. > What about men who appear in pornography? Is that > all right, since > they aren't women? Are men more "adult" than women, > and therefore > able to decide for themselves, whereas women cannot? > Or would you > say that, by removing their clothes, they have > become "children" and > have forfeited their freedom to choose? As initiators the men alone have the blame of conducting these acts. > > To me it looks as if adults with a child-like > > conscience who do not have the faintest idea what > they > > are doing are playing with an unimaginable > powerfull > > weapon. > > You've lost me here. What is this "weapon" to which > you refer? Is > it Freenet? Is it a camera? Is it the model's > body? Is it the > consumer's libido? Insane use of sexuality. > Who is the "adult with a child-like conscience" -- > the model who > posed for the pictures? The photographer? The > publisher? The > consumer? Adults suffering of insane use of sexuality. > I am having a considerable amount of trouble > understanding your > arguments, and it seems that English may not be your > native language. > Please explain in more detail. I have the impression that you follow me quite clearly, although english is not my native language indeed. I do have the impression that you have more likely troubels accepting the implications of my position. > The only coherent response I can make at this point > is that you are > conflating "pornography" and "child pornography". > You're attempting > to say that they are fully equivalent, and that the > producers and > consumers of one are exactly the same, morally, as > the producers > and consumers of the other. I disagree with this, > vehemently. They are not the same by some degrees. They are however the expression of the same problem, namely insane use of sexuality. > So long as children are not involved in the process, > at any level, > I can't understand what your objection is. Insane, or greedy or violent or destructive or iresponsible, use of sexuality is the problem which bothers me no end, and affects my life in a very uncomforting manner, even while I do not engage in such activities. > -- > Greg Wooledge | "Truth belongs to > everybody." > greg at wooledge.org | - The Red Hot > Chili Peppers > http://wooledge.org/~greg/ | > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer _______________________________________________ chat mailing list chat at freenetproject.org http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat
