Ken didn't get tenure at Harvard: http://keiapl.org/anec/#one_little_book He doubled his salary when he went from Harvard to IBM Research: http://keiapl.org/rhui/autobio.htm#Harvard_tenure
Good teaching is only a factor in getting tenure, and in those days it was a smaller factor (if a factor at all). ----- Original Message ----- From: dly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:39 Subject: Re: [Jchat] Tenure To: Chat forum <[email protected]> > It was my impression from a conversation with Ken that IBM > recruited > him before he qualified for tenure rather than the university > not > granting him tenure. He was already teaching in the > University at > that time and I think he might easily have been their best teacher. > > Donna > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > On 17-Jul-08, at 7:24 PM, frank clooter wrote: > > > Winning a Turing or Nobel Prize does not necessarily mean that one > > deserves tenure. > > > > Teaching, which at its best happens to be exceptionally > creative, is > > different from creating in a context of being worth a Turing > > (computing's Nobel Prize) or a Nobel Prize or a _______ prize. > > > > That being said, I guess that Dijkstra and Cook both received tenure > > later in their careers. > > > > Tenure in itself is not necessarily the great yardstick that > it > > ought to be. > > > > While presumably based on merit, tenure is just as likely to > be based > > upon how much revenue one's connections might bring to the tenuring > > institution. Politics is likely key. Being engaged > to the dean's > > daughter probably helps too. > > > > Ken would have likely become tenured had he stayed in > academia. For > > all intents and purposes, becoming an IBM Fellow is at the > very least > > equivalent to tenure. To the often exhibited degree that > Ken was > > talented for and capable of teaching, I think that he could easily > > have stood shoulder to shoulder with the cream of the tenured crops. > > > > FC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
