load 'socket'
coinsert 'jsocket'
]sky=: 0 pick sdcheck sdsocket ''
]yahoo=: sdcheck sdgethostbyname 'ichart.finance.yahoo.com' NB. find host
sdcheck sdconnect sky;yahoo,<80 NB. connect to port 80
sdcheck ('GET
table.csv?s=GE&d=31&e=1&f=2020&g=d&a=1&b=1&c=2008&ignore=.csv',CR,LF) sdsend
sky,0
a=:; sdcheck sdrecv sky,1000,0
2009/1/31 Matthew Brand <[email protected]>
> Just thinking out loud about how to generate more exposure for J.
> I am sure it is a common experience amongst J'ers, the frustration that
> hardly any body has heard of or uses it. People seem to take its low
> exposure as an indication of its low quality or worth and then refuse to
> even look into it ... as though the rule of the mob ever resulted in good
> decisions! No mention of any recent election results from this Ron Paul
> advocate ;-)).
>
> Sometimes people who only use "__ generation languages" (joke) such as
> Python, C++, Matlab expect you to start talking about grassy knolls in the
> next sentence if you mention J ... following the standard conversation
> where
> you have explained that J is not short for Java.
>
> The PostGreSLQ database allows the creation of functions in popular
> languages, Perl, TCL, Python ...
> A very simple, and poorly written, example of using embedded Python to read
> data from yahoo reads,
>
> create or replace function yahooread ()
> returns text
> as $$
> import httplib
> conn = httplib.HTTPConnection("ichart.finance.yahoo.com")
> conn.request("GET",
> "/table.csv?s=GE&d=31&e=1&f=2020&g=d&a=1&b=1&c=2008&ignore=.csv")
> r1 = conn.getresponse()
> conn.close()
> data1=r1.read()
> return data1
> $$
> language plpythonu;
>
> select yahooread from yahooread();
>
> It occurs to me that when people read the PostGreSQL manual and see that it
> is compatible with Perl, Python and TCL then it works as an advertisement,
> even an endorsement of those languages.
>
> To that end I was wondering how much effort it would take to make J appear
> in the list of supported languages in popular software ... which hopefully
> would eventually make J more acceptable to the mainstream.
>
> Why make it more popular? Well firstly because I enjoy using it and if it
> was more popular then more employers would pay more of us more money to do
> something we enjoy; secondly because it would increase the number of
> developers making libraries which again in beneficial to people who enjoy
> J.
>
> I am no expert in how to make languages talk to each other or to make this
> kind of language embedding occur, but am just thinking that in order to
> generate more exposure for J then providing ways to use it inside other
> popular systems like PostGreSQL would be a great way to increase the user
> base - or at least to get people to go to the jsoftware website and check
> it
> out - because J would appear in the manuals of all of those languages.
>
> I also note that there are many wiki pages that could have a reference to J
> added to them e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matlab has a list of
> languages at the bottom. I do not know how to edit wiki pages but it occurs
> to me that J could appear at the bottom of that page.
>
> It definitely should appear on but is absent from this page:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numerical_analysis_software
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