On 13 April 2011 18:00, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> (Or, at least, I was not taught the Peano Postulates in first grade.
> But maybe things have changed, since then?

And since when is the formal definition of a programming language
similar to anything you learned in first grade?
And since when is DoJ a beginners literature at all, and not a
reference (the most formal and rigorous that we have, the ultimate
authority) on J?

> Anyways, it's my experience that mathematical definitions do not
> make sense to someone who has not been exposed to examples.)

True, but that simply means that we need both, and use them in
parallel.  Examples are not a substitute for definitions -- they
are just an illustrative aid.

> It's either that or you have been proposing no alternatives at all.

All I have been proposing is replacing the not sufficiently clear
definition of / with a clear one -- just what is expected from a
definition.
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