I did all that and more with my kids at ages and 9 and 13 (grade 5 and 8) using 
APL 68000 for Amiga 1986 - we did music, animation, games - they helped to 
write the programs for hangman, tic tac toe and other known games plus some 
they made up

they also played with the flight simulators that the adults were building and 
testing

If you teach them, they will learn!

Donna 
[email protected]


On 2011-12-14, at 2:05 PM, Roger Hui wrote:

> I got myself invited to talk to a grade 7 math class at my kids' school.  I
> was given 20 minutes.  The following is a record of the session of my talk,
> with my comments added afterwards.
> 
>   2 + 3
> 5
>   2 - 3
> _1
>   2 * 3
> 6
>   2 % 3
> 0.666667
>   2 % 5
> 0.4
> 
>   NB. I was told that the talk I had was "too advanced", so my goal
>   NB. was to get across one main simple idea, the following one.
> 
>   2 3 4 + 8 1 7
> 10 4 11
> 
>   NB. a student thought that 2 3 4 was 234, and gave 1052
>   NB. as the expected answer.
> 
>   234 + 817
> 1051
> 
>   2 3 4 - 8 1 7
> _6 2 _3
>   2 3 4 * 8 1 7
> 16 3 28
> 
>   NB. Some students seem quite smart, so I slipped in "insert".
> 
>   +/ 2 3 4
> 9
>   */ 2 3 4
> 24
>   2+3+4
> 9
> 
>   NB. a student asked about order of operations
> 
>   2 + 4 * 3
> 14
>   2 * 4 + 3
> 14
>   (2 * 4) + 3
> 11
> 
>   NB. I wanted to tell them the story of Gauss as a schoolboy
>   NB. summing the numbers from 1 to 100 in no time flat.
> 
>   +/ 1 2 3 4 5
> 15
>   1 2 3 4 5 + 5 4 3 2 1
> 6 6 6 6 6
>   5 * 6 % 2
> 15
>   100 * 101 % 2
> 5050
>   1 2 3 4 ... + 100 99 98 ...
> |spelling error
> |      1 2 3 4 ... + 100 99 98 ...
> |              ^
> 
>   NB. a student asked about exponentiation
> 
>   2 ^ 3
> 8
>   4 ^ 3
> 64
>   2 4 ^ 3 2
> 8 16
> 
>   2 ^ 123
> 1.06338e37
> 
>   NB. A student ask where he can get the software.  Another asked "PC or
> Mac?"
> 
> At the end, the teacher suggested I go talk to the high school (8-12)
> classes.
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