On Wed, May 13, 2015, at 09:34 PM, Shrayas rajagopal wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:56 PM, James Mortensen > <james.morten...@synclio.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > I have a theory that encouragement can go a long way. If you're a student, > > invite the women in your classes to attend Chennaipy. If you work, invite > > women in your office. If you have a sister or daughter, encourage her to go > > out into the world and make it her own. Don't try to "protect" her with > > different rules or ideologies. It's not protecting, it's restricting. > > well said. +1 > > > With that said, I don't think a separate group would help; it would just > > make this problem worse. This just perpetuates the idea that women need to > > be "protected". For this to work, we need to create an environment of > > respect for everyone, tolerance, and the idea of personal responsibility for > > all of our actions. > > While I very much agree with you James, I think that an org like > PyLadies helps with the initial hurdle of getting women into > technology. Usually, it is this part that is very important as it can > make or break an impression. PyLadies IMO is a great way to foster > that impression and help bring focus to the technology where it should > rightfully be.
While PyLadies could be a good initiative, something like that makes sense if we can identify key people who can help develop such a community and take it from there. With the kind of audience that we presently have, I don't think it's feasible to think about a seperate group for now. > > The fact is that we *dont* have / aren't trying hard enough to create > the environment that you talk about. In an idealistic scenario that is > how it should be. But in reality it really isn't that way (as you have > remarked yourself). Reality expects, as Jacob said, you to be a > "great" programmer or it expects you to be "cut out for" technology. > PyLadies helps in that exact area. The focus on technology would give > confidence (or clarity) to face what reality holds. > > I very much look up to all the women in tech. For them to have braced > all that the community throws at them and stand their ground is worth > much praise. > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy -- Kiran Gangadharan http://kirang.in _______________________________________________ Chennaipy mailing list Chennaipy@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy