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Thanks Glen!

Everything is brand new, so I shouldn't have any corrosion problems.
I'm quite sure I don't have any crimped lines, as they're also brand
new, and I ran them.

Yes, I bled the front and rear of the MC separately.  Bench bled them
both first.

Would you have a suggestion of what prop valve to get?  My first
inclination is to get the Wilwood adj valve.

Thanks!

GLENN BAILEY wrote:
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> Did you bleed the rear chamber of the MC separately? If not, start there.
> Mix & match brake part problems are always difficult to solve.  The most
> common cause I have seen is the brake light switch mounted down on the
> frame.  They corrode inside over time, and the piston never moves out of the
> center.  When you bleed 1 side with air in the other, it forces the piston
> all the way to the air side where it sticks in the corrosion.  The quick
> shop fix i learned was get some one to pump the brakes up fully, tap the
> valve with a hammer to jar the piston, and open the front bleeder to release
> pressure on that side. This uses the hydraulic pressure in the back side to
> push the piston back toward the front (now low pressure) side.  You can hear
> the piston snap back when it releases.  May take several tries.  They'll
> take a pretty good whack without breaking usually.  If this is unsuccessful,
> replacement is the only option.  Make sure MC is bled first.
> You can do a fluid flow check before trying this if you want by bleeding
> your MC chamber first, then checking flow in & out of the switch to verify
> that its different.  At the shop we never spent the time, you just whacked
> 'em & they usually cleared up.
> A crimped line on the back section of the system or damaged hose would also
> cause you trouble.  If the car has been disassembled and worked on alot
> since it ran, I'd look at those issues first.
> P.S.  When you get it working, get the proportioning valve.  Improves safety
> & helps avoid premature wheel lockup.
> Good luck
> Glenn
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> >Subject: [Chevelle-List] Help:  Ford 9" with disk brakes on a Chevelle?
> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:42:41 -0500
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> >I'm building a pro-street '69, and put in a Ford 9" rear with the Ford
> >OEM disk brakes.
> >I have the stock '69 Chevelle Master Cylinder for a manual disk brake
> >car, it's the big one.
> >The front brakes are GM stock brakes for a '69 Chevelle.
> >Everything is brand new (MC, calipers, hoses, shoes, lines, etc).
> >The front of the MC resevoir is being used for the front brakes.
> >I am not using a proporting valve, as suggested by a Wilwood tech.
> >Although I'll be happy to put one in if it's necessary.
> >I'm using the DOT5 brake fluid.
> >
> >Here's the problem.  The rear brakes apparently aren't getting enough
> >fluid.  The front brakes bled normally, and the pedal would go clear to
> >the floor, and I would get the expected amount of brake fluid with each
> >pedal push.
> >However, with the front caliper bleeders closed, the pedal would only
> >push half-way down.  So, while bleeding the rear brakes, it took nearly
> >20-30 half pumps to get as much fluid to the rear calipes as 4-5 pumps
> >on the fronts.
> >
> >With the rear of the car on jack stands, the rear brakes will stop the
> >tires with no problem, so I know the brakes are partially working.
> >
> >I'm quite sure I have all of the air out of the lines.  I bled quite a
> >lot, waited a week, then bled again.
> >
> >Any suggestions?  I'm tempted to swap the lines at the MC and see what
> >happens.
> >
> >
> >Also, the parking brakes are not working on the Ford brakes.  The lever
> >is being turned all the way, but nothing is happening.  Any suggestions?
> >
> >BTW:  This is my first experience with the 9" rears, so maybe I've
> >missed something.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
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