Can you tell me where this subject about Gateway computers started. I am
self employed and work on computers for my living. I might be able to help
you. I am trying to find out the full problem of your Gateway computer.
Please send me the original email that tells what the problem is
Keith Cooper

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Why GATEWAY Sucks


> Steve,
>
> Thanks for the info. You are absolutely 100% correct. And, incidentally,
> I read the stuff you sent me and it applies to all the card companies,
> not just Mastercard.
>
> The problem is that it costs $100 to return the computer which you can
> NOT force them to reimburse you for. Also, according to law, they do not
> have to accept the machine when I DO return it without an RMA. They can,
> and will, simply refuse it without their RMA sticker on it. Accepting
> their RMA means accepting that they will also only credit me for the
> amount of purchase LESS the cost to ship it to me in the first place!
> That is implicit in the paperwork they send you. So, I'm out $158 in
> shipping charges and have no computer!!! And by the way, it costs twice
> as much to ship it BACK as it did to ship it HERE! I suspect they have
> some sort of sweetheart deal with UPS that gives them a cut of the
> shipping fees (which they get in the form of reduced outbound rates).
>
> Gateway knows this stops most people from arguing about variances from
> what you ordered. I can dispute the charge if it has been returned but I
> can't escape the UPS fees to return it! And Gateway knows that they will
> win this argument with Mastercard every time because they are within the
> letter of the law. I would bet dimes to donuts that Dell does exactly
> the same thing. You can't beat these people - they have this drill down
> pat. Don't be deceived by the blah blah blah on their website. When
> trouble comes - even, for example, if the machine does not work, you
> will pay to send it back and you will pay both ways if you decide not to
> accept a replacment (which is usually how you feel after being jerked
> around by their customer service for two hours).
>
> I really only posted this to the list to help others avoid getting
> screwed and I apologize for blabbering on about it. The computer works,
> but I can't plug my scanner card in and it won't accept replacement
> hardware that is not Gateway. This means no more scanner pics of my
> purty little Chevelle and, when it breaks down, they'll be no fixing it
> unless I buy the parts from them. That's gonna' REALLY get my goat.
>
> C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net]On Behalf Of Steve Allen
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Why OPG Sucks
>
>
> "NoNeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am pretty sure that the credit card co's will back you. Most of the
> ones
> > that I have heard of will not pay the business until the dispute is
> > resolved.
>
> It's the law that you can withhold payment for incorrect merchandise:
>
>   http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/fcb.htm
>
> Among the things you can dispute is:
>
> - charges for goods and services you didn't accept or weren't delivered
> as
>   agreed;
>
>
> Steve
>
>
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