Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure
 
Bill,
Thanks for sharing this experience with us. I certainly learned something from it.
Don
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Chuck,

 

I downloaded the pdf file from the Clevite site that you mentioned. One thing that struck me was a paragraph about the grinding marks left on the thrust face after the crank is ground. I copied it here:

 

SURFACE FINISH

Crankshaft thrust faces are difficult to grind because they are done using the side of the grinding wheel. Grinding marks left on the crankshaft face produce a visual swirl or sunburst pattern with scratches sometimes crisscrossing one another in a crosshatch pattern similar to hone marks on a cylinder wall. If these grinding marks are not completely removed by polishing, they will remove the oil film from the surface of the thrust bearing much like multiple windshield wiper blades. A properly finished crankshaft thrust face should only have very fine polishing marks that go around the thrust surface in a circumferential pattern.

 

I remember asking the guys at both machine shops I dealt with about the pattern on the thrust face the first time I pulled the engine out. Everyone said it was no problem, they all get put together that way. I took them at their word��.WRONG.

 

I polished the marks off the thrust face with 600 grit followed by 1200 grit. It took me about an hour but I got it looking beautiful. I put the motor together and it doesn�t look like it is grinding the bearing anymore. I still had a slight amount of residue in the oil filter after running the car but 2 filters later there is virtually nothing polluting the oil. I�m sure there was a good amount of �gold dust� hiding in the motor that needed to be cleansed. I just changed the oil again to be sure.

 

You can bet that I will never build another motor without paying particularly close attention to the thrust face of the crank. I hope sharing my experience here prevents someone else from having the same problem I did.

 

I printed copies of the Clevite tech article for both machine shops I deal with and I highlighted the Surface Finish paragraph.

 

Thanks to everyone who took the time to help. This is a great forum with an awesome knowledge base.

 

I�m going racing. I believe the problem is finally solved.

 

Bill Vander Werf

 

 

 

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Chuck Hanson
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Monday, December 30, 2002 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure

 

Bill,
Sorry to hear you're still having problems with the thrust bearing on your engine.  It's a real stumper, I know.  One thing that comes to  mind is calling the tech line for the manufacturer of your bearings.  They have probably come up against this problem in the past and may be able to shed some light on the problem.  Sometimes even the most astute engine builders and/or machinists can overlook something or have never encountered a problem such as yours.  When we talked about your engine a while back I ran over all the scenarios in my mind, and it seemed like you'd already tried to correct all the suspected problem areas.

I checked the online tech site for Clevite bearings (Dana Corp), and there's a lot of info on how to troubleshoot your problem.  Rather than cut and paste that info, here's where to go:   http://engineparts.com/Motorhead/techstuff/bulletins/TB2043.pdf

Good luck, Bill.  If that doesn't work, a phone call to their tech line and a conversation with a real person may be the only answer.  Sorry I don't have their tech line # in front of me right now.  If you don't find it yourself, holler at me on the ACES Hotline and I'll try to come up with it for you.

Chuck

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