Man, that's a lot of great info to keep on hand for future reference. Thanks Rocky
Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: rocky hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 1964-72 Chevelle Seat Upholstery/John Nasta I s Correct Just thought you might be interested in some facts! Rocky --- Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And now we know the "REST of the story!" > > SARGE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rocky hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 1964-72 Chevelle Seat > Upholstery/John Nasta Is > Correct > > > From 1969 on, the SS was no longer a separate model. > Instead, it was now an "SS" option package added to > a > 300 Deluxe model, Malibu model, or El Camino Custom > model. 1969 was the only model year that the SS > package could be ordered on the base model Chevelle > 300 Deluxe (as a 2-door coupe or a 2-door post > sedan). > The only SS option in '69 was the "Z25" SS-396 > package. The '69 and up cars are harder to > authenticate because the VIN can not be used to > confirm if the car is an SS. > > There were two colors that were exclusive to the '69 > SS. "Monaco Orange" (code 72) and "Daytona Yellow" > (code 76). If either of these paint codes appear on > the cowl tag (and the cowl tag is genuine) then that > would prove the car to be a genuine SS. > > If someone had a nice '69 Malibu, and a rusted out > '69 > SS, it would be easy for them to simply move the SS > equipment over to the Malibu. As long as they did > not > alter or move the VIN plates or cowl tags, this > would > be perfectly legal, and since the VIN tag doesn't > tell > you much, there would be almost no way for you to > know. > > From '69 on, single-piston disk brakes were STANDARD > equipment with the SS package. These brakes are > easier > to find parts for than the earlier four-piston disk > brakes. > > Chevrolet literature indicates that the only way to > get a 396 was with the SS package. However, there > appears to be at least one late-production Chevelle > that was built with a 396 and all the required SS > equipment, but the "Z25" SS-396 option was not > listed > on the car's build sheet. It is believed that this > car > came from the factory with "SS" emblems, but that is > not 100% certain. > > Again in 1969, the only available SS engine was the > 396 (in the same flavors as in 1968). In 1969, > however, it was possible (if you knew who to talk > to) > to order something called a COPO 427 Chevelle. COPO > stands for "Central Office Production Order". The > COPO > program allowed dealers to order equipment that was > not usually available (such as special paint, > special > engines, etc.) Unlike the '68s, the '69 Chevelles > had > their 427 engines installed at the FACTORY, not the > dealership. This makes the '69 427s more legitimate > in > the eyes of collectors today. You didn't necessarily > have to go to Yenko or some other special dealer in > '69 to get a 427 Chevelle. Your local dealer could > usually get you one if you filled out the right > paperwork. While the '69 COPO 427s had basically the > same equipment as the SS-396s, they were not > generally considered SSs > because they did not have any external "SS" or "427" > identification. They > were the ultimate sleepers. Any genuine '69 COPO 427 > Chevelle is quite > valuable today. There are also unconfirmed reports > of a '69 COPO 427 El > Camino. > > In addition, there was an "L89" aluminum head option > available for the '69 375 HP 396. Few were ordered. > > 1969 SSs had "SS/396" emblems on the front, back, > fenders, door panels, on the dash above the glove > box, > and on the standard SS steering wheel. The '69 SS > also > had the twin-bulge hood like the '68s, but the bolt > holes where the hood hinges attached were slightly > different. The '69 SS came with 14" SS wheels with > "SS" center caps. The '69 SS stripe option consisted > of a black, white, or red stripe which ran along the > upper body sides. There are also reports of a few > '69 > SSs with dealer-painted hood stripes, similar to the > stripes used on many '70-'72 SSs. > > Another rare car, produced only in '69, was an SS > Chevelle built on the 2-door post sedan, the > "Chevelle > 300". This was the only year that a 2-door post > sedan > SS was produced. Most of the '69 SSs, and all the > '70-'72 SSs, were built upon the 2-door Malibu > pillarless coupe. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > ---- > > > --- John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > > > Well, I sure wouldn't rip up "mint" original seat > > covers just to find a > > build sheet that may not even be there. > > > > In 1969 there was no way to tell if it was a true > SS > > by the VIN number. > > > > The build sheet could be anywhere or nowhere. > There > > was no set standard > > about leaving them anywhere, but often the > assembly > > line people did leave > > them in the car. Other common places to check are > on > > top of the gas tank and > > under the carpets, but like I said, I wouldn't go > > ripping things up just to > > see if there is a build sheet or not. > > > > JMO, > > John Nasta > > Old Car Network > > http://oldcarnetwork.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1964-72 Chevelle Seat > > Upholstery > > > > Hey John, > > I may have to buy a set of seat upholstery > > from you. The pisser is, > > my upholstery is in practically mint condition. I > > just aquired my '69 > > Chevelle SS 396 after 20 years of waiting (it was > my grandfathers car, > > he died in 1983). My dad inherited it and did > > absolutely nothing with it at > > all, but was nice enough to sell it to me after > all > > these years. Anyway, I'm > > franticly looking for the build sheet and I'm told > > that inside the seats is > > one of the likely locations. This is why I may > have > > to gain access to the > > inside of the seats and may need new covers. I'm > > actually looking for your > > input on build sheet locations. I'm new to this > and > > just got on this mailing > > list but see your name and letters in here all the > > time. I figured you might > > not mind giving me some input. Like I said, I'm > new > > to this and some of the > > VIN # breakdown info I have gotten contradicts > that > > my car is indeed a > > genuine SS which is why I am hell bent on locating > > the build sheet. It would > > be quite a mystery if this car was not an SS. My > > grandfather bought it brand > > new in 1969 and it was sold as an SS. I also have > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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