I like HP as well. I was told some time ago that Microsoft and HP were in
bed with each other! I have had quite a few printers, from Epson, Canon, and
a few others ranging from the old BW days to the present. Most have been HP
and I have had few problems in general.

With the special paper and inks you can buy, and with a good 8 mega pixel
camera, the pictures almost look as good as my 35 mm Nikon!

The only thing I do not like about HP, is they have moved their help dept to
India. The few times I have had a problem, they were no help. Plenty of book
learning, but no practical experience! Microsoft helped me get over most of
the few problems I have had!

I do like some of the later printers with separate colors...saves money!!

Look at Cnet.com for printer reviews. Canon, Epson and HP are in the top
ranks!

Dan Mascheck


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From: Ron Malespin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:01 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT: printer notes - hope this is useful

John,
I have a HP photo quality printer. I have a HP fax copier. I have a HP  11 x
17 printer.  I have had no problems with any of the equipment.  They work
flawlessly.
 
Ron
67 Malibu
----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Nasta 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT: printer notes - hope this is useful

Some of you know that I have been having printer problems. Here are a few
things I've learned. I hope this is useful to somebody out there.

1) At epson.com you can buy factory-refurbished printers for about half the
retail price with free delivery and a 1yr mfr warranty, and they do come
with the ink cartridges and cables.

2) The HP printers where the paper loads from the front and also comes out
the front are not good for certain forms like perforated business cards. The
180-degree turn makes the cards break apart and the paper jams, and you have
a hell of a time getting it out (in pieces). I also had several other paper
feeding problems with the one I bought, picking up several sheets at a time
(my personal record was 13) and not always picking it up in the same place,
causing forms like checks and shipping labels not to line up properly.

3) The HP "Vivera" inks are not as saturated in color as Epson's "DuraBrite"
inks, and the printing on mine was also not as sharp as the Epson.

4) The HP printer did not come with a USB cable and only came with "starter
cartridges" that ran out in less than a week. Obviously the plan here is to
get you to buy more ink right away since the markup on the ink is what they
make most of their money on. The Epson printers come with the cable and also
with full ink cartridges.

5) There are several web pages that show how to clean the Epson printer head
if it clogs, and you can even buy a cleaning cartridge that is supposedly
the same thing they use at Epson to clear a clogged print head. This looks
like an ink cartridge but it has some sort of solvent in it instead of ink.
Unfortunately I took mine apart and really screwed it up before I knew this.
Otherwise I could have probably fixed it.

6) Another bad thing about Epson printers is that some models are known for
having a problem with the "ink purge tube" disconnecting itself over time,
which will make it stop printing. There are also web pages that show how to
reconnect it if that happens. Hopefully that has been solved on newer
models. This did not happen on mine.

7) Epson's help site worked great and I got an immediate reply. Sending a
support message through the HP site resulted in an error message and I never
got a reply.

I have to say that despite the head clogging problem I am going to buy
another Epson (refurbished) and just be more diligent about cleaning the
head once in a while "whether it needs it or not".

Again, I apologize for the OT post and I am not really trying to start a big
discussion on this, but hopefully some of you can benefit from what I
learned the hard way.

John Nasta






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