Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home?

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haha james, i'll keep that in mind. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC) To: Craig Ellis ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? to bitch on the other foot, the american auto companies are sending the work and product overseas because it is cheaper for labor and product.So the cost is cheaper but we don't see the cost of cars going down. just the profit going up. so who is screwing who?they are closing plants and technology down here, so who is going to cars in the u.s. without a job or money and we can only export so much. but with todays economy you have to think about better bang for the buck, which would be foreign vehicles.but for me as a auto worker RACE CHEVYS and TOW THEM WITH FORDS. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Ellis Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:41 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? By the way, I just wrote a note to the LIST about profits and whatnot - I inadvertently wrote that note in a "reply" to a posted note by Clint Hooper but it was NOT intended to go to Clint. I just didn't think to create a new message for my little rant. So, I hope no one thought I was cranked up a Clint.   Just for the record, I wouldn't buy a Japanese car unless you had a gun pointed at me and I was pretty sure you'd pull the trigger. These days I am a recruiter in the automotive industry and recruit plant operations, engineering, and management people all over the country and mostly for domestic OEM suppliers. I know a lot about the business and Clint is exactly right: Unfair trade with China and other countries is killing us. What is even more apalling is that we are not only hiring the Chinese to make the parts, we are giving them the technology and education to do it. It is madness.   In my opinion, buy NOTHING made in China...not clothes, not toys, not car parts, nothing. It is the only message you can send. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? You guys can buy foreign cars all you want. It's your right to do so. I own two GM vehicles and one Harley Davidson. However,unfair trade with the Chinese is what's killing our economy. Just look at ChinaMart's success. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: James Strunk my bottom line,,,when ANYONE owns a japanese product,even if it's your right,,,,you ARE supporting a country that attacked and brutally killed american solders, such as my grandfather,,, that refuses to allow our products to be sold in their country,,,that's right,,exercise your right,,buy from a race that will not buy from US!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Marlon Hanson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? I think the big picture is that too many of us our looking at our own short term benefit, just as GM and Ford did in the 80s when they let the Japanese take over the auto market. They went for short term quarter to quarter gains profits so everyone in upper management could earn fat bonuses and and stock would go up. Now we have in essense been "taken over" and more ownership of what used to be OUR country is gradually slipping completely out of American hands. Long term, this COULD prove to be a significant problem for our grandchildren. We can't be sure, but I do seem to recall that the brutality of every country we now buy from during past wars. Our "prisoner abuses" are nothing compared to what was done to our soldiers who were captured were subjected to in World War II and since. And... Now that our funds are gradually funneling into the middle east for gas and oil we know what their attitude toward personal liberties are. All that money goes toward buying Ame! rica ... good for us today. For our children? for our grandchildren? I am a bit obstinate, but I carefully look at what I'm buying and try to stay as American as possible. From Cars to Wal Mart, I must admit it is getting harder and harder. Marlon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with all of you; but you're missing the big picture. James is right. The Japanese do not open their trading borders, not just for Autos but all products, with the same open arms that we do. Bottom line; follow the money. Where do those profit dollars really go after the cars are built in America?   BTW, GM is closing 9[i think] plants and laying off some 30,000 employees.    Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Nov 22, 2005 4:12 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List , The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? Are there any vehicles that are ENTIRELY American built anymore?  And by that I mean without Canadian or Mexican parts/assembly etc.?  I doubt it.  Larry makes a good point, but I believe those Japanese cars assembled here are made with mostly Japanese parts.  They are assembled here to avoid the customs duties associated with finished goods, but GM and Ford do the same thing in Europe. I guess my point is that the lines are very blurred.  People can say "Buy American" and I'm all for it, but you have to wonder how much of the product is really American.  Besides, the Japanese automaker pays taxes to Uncle Sam for selling their ca! rs here, same as GM or Ford. Matt At 12:32 PM 11/22/2005, Larry Shouse wrote: I'm not ashamed of owning a Japanese vehicle. As far as I'm concerned it's our right as an American to buy what we feel to be the best fit and value for our given situation. Besides, many "Japanese" cars and trucks are assembled here in the United States, while many of our American vehicles are assembled in other countries. Same goes for parts. You want to buy strictly American? That's your right and I will defend your right to do so, but good luck accomplishing your goal.   Larry Shouse ----- Original Message ----- From: James Strunk To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? I have an idea,,no a suggestion,get rid of that japanese car,,anybody should be ashamed to own japanese cars,they restict owr big three automakers to a specific # of cars that can be sold in japan,, FAIR TRADE ??? I've said before,,If you see me in a japanese car or truck,,call the law,,I've been kidnapped !!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home? ok ok somebody has got to step and be the expert ......somebody? anybody ? gezzzzz maybe all of us together are the experts lol Darin Bailey