Michael. I remember you posting a long story about the door issue several weeks ago. Hearing it again makes me think that the story begs the question - Why didn't you return it? I don't mean to be critical. I'm just wondering if there's more to the story, like Goodmark refusing to accept the return or something else. IMO, a bad product is one thing, but if they were also unwilling to honor a return that's even worse.
Karl Groves Master Certified CIW http://www.karlgroves.com <http://www.karlgroves.com/> Grayscale Content Management System: http://www.grayscalecms.com <http://www.grayscalecms.com/> _____ From: Michael Pell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HELP - Question about body panels Be very leery of any repo parts. Even Goodmark. I bought a new door shell for my '69 from Goodmark, and the door was 1/2"-3/4" too short!!! and the body man added 1/8" to the front edge, and shimmed the door out quite a bit to make it all fit. Very sad. I now have about $1,000 in a single door!!!!! arrrgh! I'll be drafting a letter with pics to Goodmark, and will post it on my website. -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, Than live my life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Tom Rightler wrote: Do yourself a favor and go to www.goodmarkindustries.com and find a local dealer. There are only 2 companies that actually make the fenders, Goodmark and Golden Leigion. Dynacorn is nothing more than a wholesaler for Golden Legion parts. The Goodmark ones are the better fitting fenders. A common mistake that alot of people make is that thinking all these catalog companies (Year One, OPG, ets.) make the sheetemtal parts, they don't. They only have them for retail sale from the wholesalers. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor From: Thomas Ringlein <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: 'Thomas Ringlein' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:28 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] HELP - Question about body panels Folks - I am asking for some expertise on this issue - sorry it is long, but it is a good read. I noticed that in Ground-Up Restorations, there are 2 different quality levels of new repop fenders for the 1971-1972 Chevelles. One, part # RF-71L, is listed at $260, and is not listed as a "GM Restoration Part." Another, part # RF-71GML, is listed at $319, and is supposedly "newly retooled, and offer a more definitive fit, with sharper edges." It is listed as the "GM Restoration Part" for our cars. Now OPG has similar fenders - but only one part # for a left front fender - PZ00611, listed at $269 (and on sale right now for $220). I also took the time to notice that their full quarters for the same car using "original GM tooling," and listed as the "finest quality" available, and the only ones licensed by GM - for the low-low price of only $400. That is about $200 less then everyone else. As a skeptic, I placed a call and talked to Jason on the other line. This is what he said. Question: Your competitors have two repop fenders available, one that is "standard quality," and one that is "newly retooled" and the only "GM Restoration Part," with better body lines. Which are your $260 fenders - the good ones, or the bad ones. Who manufactures your fenders? Answer: They are both the same fenders. There is only one manufacturer in the world, and that is Dynacorn. The panels are licensed by GM for restoration purposes, stamped overseas, and distributed by Goodmark and Cars Inc., among others. The tooling is wildly expensive, and there is only one set of tooling for these fenders in the world. If someone else is advertising two qualities of fenders, they are selling the same fender piece for two prices. Beware of these guys. Question: Okay, assuming that is true, you are stating that your fenders are the "GM licensed" fenders, the best available, made with the best tooling in the industry, and manufactured by Dynacorn and shipped directly to your warehouse in Huntington Beach, Ca? Answer: Yes - that is why we have the best price around for that fender and are able to offer it to you for great savings. Question: I also noticed a similar situation with your "full quarters" for the same car. You are supposedly selling the best available GM Restoration quarters for $200 less then the competition. What gives? Answer: Same issue. Only one set of tooling, and Dynacorn has it. These are the only GM Restoration quarters (the same being offered by Goodmark), and we offer a substantial savings because they are shipped directly to San Diego and we truck them up to LA. That savings goes straight to you. Oh - and they are on sale too right now. Get your order in quick. Now - Are they feeding me a line? Do they really have the best stuff for substantial savings over the competition - or do they think I am a sucker? Why does Ground-Up have two quality fenders for sale if there really is "only one available worldwide?" Who knows the real story on this? For the record - I would prefer a factory fender, but cannot find one that would not cost over $500 after it is fixed and on the car. OPG also has great prices on the hoods, and all other body parts. Are they the same parts others are selling for 25-30% higher? TJ Ringlein Clovis, CA 1972 Chevelle in Shambles (heading to body shop in 30 days) _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: 12/25/2006 _____ Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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