I'm not too familiar with CB (I'm a Zotonic developer), but I feel Nicholas
does a fair job in his comparison.

I'd just like to make a note regarding TechEmpower tests.

TechEmpower tests does a ton of micro-benchmarks that shows what kind of
throughput you can get in a stripped/partial system on a single request.
If that fit your needs,  I suppose they are useful.
What they doesn't show is how the system performs under heavy-load, as a
full-stack/application.
I bet their results would be quite different if they provided tests showing
how the various frameworks degrade under pressure.

//Andreas


2014-04-01 21:56 GMT+02:00 Nicholas Whittier <[email protected]>:

> You'll find at least a few users overlapping both groups, and my guess is
> that both sides will have similar thoughts.
>
> Some thoughts from a light user of both:
> 1. As David mentioned on another post here, chicagoboss is in a bit of a
> transitional state at the moment, so expect things to be
> changing/coalescing over the next several months.
> 2. While Zotonic is a web framework, it's tightly organized around zotonic
> as a CMS. Similar to the way you can use the underlying Drupal or Joomla
> framework if you wanted, but you could also build a site via custom modules
> that integrate at the CMS level (zotonic users/devs should chime in if I'm
> going too far with this). ChicagoBoss is more framework focused and has no
> CMS (though erlangcms.com is building a CMS on top of CB). I think this
> results in facts like Zotonic's limited database support or that you need
> to write your own user authentication in CB.
> 3. At the moment (prepare for a flagrant oversimplification), I'd present
> Zotonic and CB as something like Drupal and Symfony in the PHP world or
> Django and Flask in Python. I don't want to raise any framework/language
> wars here, I'm just highlighting that CMS's have a place, as do frameworks.
> There's often a lot of overlap, and in many cases it's a difficult decision
> between the two when you're starting a new project.
>
> A thorough review and comparison between Zotonic and CB would be a great
> undertaking, but I think it would target a very niche audience. TechEmpower
> tests would also be great, but I think they make more sense at or after the
> 1.0 release.
>
> For me, if I know I need generic users and content management, I use
> zotonic. If I want more control over users and database(s) or if I want an
> API, I use CB. It gets a little murky with more complex scenarios.
>
> -- Nicholas
>
>
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 2:21:20 AM UTC-7, Szymon Czaja wrote:
>>
>> I have spent some time with zotonic, this is a great project, yet I
>> quickly discovered it is quite complicated, the documentation is really bad
>> and it fails to meet some of my needs (e.g. riak integration).
>>
>> I have asked a similar question the zotonic community:
>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zotonic+users&oq=
>> zotonic+users&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i59.5312j0j7&
>> sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
>>
>> Has anyone gone into trouble of comparing the two frameworks and I mean
>> the inner workings and implementation details of the two frameworks rather
>> than just functionalities?
>>
>> And how fast and reliable CB really is? The makers of zotonic give an
>> example of the voting project they have managed showing how zotonic easily
>> managed with heavy load and the 100% availability requirements.
>>
>> Has anyone thought about running a TechEmpower test etc?
>>
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