Great initiative, Tim!

Has anybody played with the idea of compiling CHICKEN with emscripten
<http://emscripten.org/>? That way, we could have a client-side REPL to
experiment with on the homepage.

K.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Peter Bex <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 04:24:18PM +0900, Tim van der Linden wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > The first thing I did on this journey was to take a peek at our fellow
> language pages, and see what they do to reel them in. A quick glance at
> other languages (like Python, Racket (!), Ruby, Erlang, ...) show the
> following common features:
> >
> > - See common, easy-to-understand code samples depicting typical language
> features
> > - Clear changelog timeline
> > - Visual weight (visual importance, not one blob of text)
> > - Big Download/Get Started now call-to-action
>
> Hi, Timusan!
>
> You can add to the list
> - Ugly
> - Confusing and hard to navigate
>
> But I hope we won't copy *those* parts ;)
>
> > Things less commonly see, but just plain beautiful:
> >
> > - The ability to run code in an interactive shell
>
> This is pretty cool, but a potential security problem.  Even if
> the sandbox egg is perfect (which I'm not sure about), it can
> still bog down the server if too many people use it at the same time.
> I'd personally prefer a fast, static page.  Just my .02 EUR (whatever
> that's worth nowadays)
>
> > - A map of CHICKEN across the world
>
> We used to have a map, on the old wiki.  Nobody has ever complained
> about this functionality getting lost on the new wiki.  It is also a
> bit of a privacy issue.  It would of course be opt-in, but I'm not sure
> as a project we should be encouraging people to give away their exact
> geolocation.
>
> > - A list of real-life CHICKEN projects
> > - An awesome photo of chickens
>
> Yes!  We must have CHICKEN imagery! :)
>
> > For the design I thought it would be smart to give it a minimalistic
> approach...CHICKEN is a tiny language after all, and we want to tout it's
> simplicity, right?
> >
> > Before putting in to much design work, I thought I would throw it out
> early in the process.
> > So I have gone ahead and create a (very rough) design for the homepage
> only, using flat elements and hopefully a better approach then currently is
> the case.
> > Mind that this is only a mock-up (nothing works!) and not all
> information is accurate. But it should give you a fairly good idea of the
> direction I wish to take...
> >
> > Also...if there are any *real* designers in the house...any help is
> welcomed ;)
> >
> > Find it here: http://shisaa.jp/chicken/
> >
> > All input is greatly appreciated and I hope this will spark a few ideas
> here and there...
>
> I really like the basic approach; it's fresh and clean.  However, you still
> kept around a lot of text from the old page.  But this is something that
> can be fixed once the basic layout has been set.
>
> I think the "WHY CHICKEN" white on yellow is a little hard to read.
> Black text provides for better contrast?  Also here I think the list of
> bullets is a little long, and provides too much reading.  Perhaps an
> alternative is to have only clickable keywords there, and provide
> a more extensive explanation (with code samples?) in the panel on the
> right.
>
> Finally, I think the eggs list deserves a link in the main menu (maybe
> name it something like "extensions" or "libraries" so it's clear to
> people new to CHICKEN).
>
> Other than that, great job on this initial design!  Thank you for putting
> in the effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
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