On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 10:37:45 -0700 Rolando Abarca <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Just as an FYI: Cloudflare challenges don't require you to add any js
> on your website. It's a layer that's built on their side.

That's not the problem.  The problem is annoying users with those
JavaScript-based challenges.

> It's sad to see that the decision is to downgrade the quality of the
> offered services because of this.

Can you elaborate on what you consider a downgrade of quality?  To me
that would be requiring users to have JavaScript enabled on their
browsers and being tracked by foreign companies to be able to access our
resources.

> What's the biggest problem here? Is it that you want to prevent
> crawlers accessing your content or reduce infra costs?

The biggest problem is protecting our services from crawlers which
exhaust resources of the server when they hit it.

> I don't think crawlers are going to stop, they will probably become
> worse (e.g. see the new efforts from cloudflare to design new crawling
> agents that run at scale).

We don't want to depend on Cloudfare to be able to provide our services.

> Closing your eyes now will give you some immediate breathing room but
> I think it will just end up isolating you and making this community
> even more difficult to access.

We are not closing our eyes.  We are just providing what we can in the
current scenario.

All the best.
Mario
-- 
https://parenteses.org/mario

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