Hello again!!  Well, my babygirl is 8wks. I have gone two nights 
Being able to wake up and take her outside for potty without 
accidents.  I have been making the mistake of carrying her outside. 
I read that she needs to be guided to walk to the front door ON HER 
OWN, and outside to the potty area ON HER OWN.  Since she is not 
leash trained yet,she refuses to walk outside with me on her own,so 
it takes a lot of coaching,treating,and praise. I put her on a leash 
and she went  nuts!! She started thrashing around and started 
gagging. And I was not moving it at all. She did all the 
moving/fighting herself. She also plays very rough.  She will jump 
in my face biting my face,biting and grabbing my fingers. She will 
throw a fit when I try holding her on her back. Yesterday I took her 
outside and an older child(8yrs ) wanted to pet her. I know the kid 
and figured no big deal, bcus I have a 8yr old she LOVES. I 
said "let her sniff your hand first" She backed into the wall by our 
apts,then when he reached(gently)to pet her head,she wimpered and 
started shaking,and ran to my feet. 
I decided to start donig a lot of training. Getting her used to 
being on her back,getting used to being petted on the head(from 
other people besides me) When my son whom she even loves,tries 
petting her head,she tries reaching up at his fingers and biting him 
playfuly,quite aggressively. I need to teach her to walk on a 
leash,and teach her to sitr before eating. Other than that she is 
really sweet and loves to cuddle. 
She liks to climb onto my husbands shoulder,...he thinks it cute. I 
don't. i think its a dominance thing.(?) I won't allow it. But then 
he has never been able to control any dog,big or small. I've always 
been the disciplinarian/trianier. Christine



--- In [email protected], Marsha Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yes, they do eventually get controle over their bladder....but 
like human
> infants, it takes time for the body to mature.
> 
> Now, as for an alarm.....I may have a suggestion. Try a internet 
search
> for equipment for the Deaf. As a Deaf person, I have an alarm that 
is
> connected to a lamp in which I have a 300 watt (yes..3 hundred!) 
bulb. If
> the light doesn't wake me, the heat usually does lol. (I am told 
there is
> also sound when it goes off). In addition, I have a vibrating 
alarm under
> my pillow. It vibrates the whole bed!! lol. I am a very heavy 
sleeper! One
> of these may work for you! Good luck,
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --- In [email protected], "Heather Thompson"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >
> > First I'd like to say thank you for the advice. I had a dog 
before
> > where she was trained the same way. And it worked great. But I 
got
> > tired of the smell from her pooing on the pad. We live in a apt. 
I
> > didn't want to deal with that again,so the puppy is gooing
> > outside .she has had no accidents (during the day). When i think 
its
> > time for her to go,I take her outside and she goes. At night,my 
big
> > problem is I can't wake up to take her out so she pottys by the
> > door. She is used to going outside,and obviously unable to hold 
it  in
> > through-out my sleep. She has been sleeping with me on the 
floor  by the
> > front door. I didn't try putting her in a crate becuase Im  
worried
> > she'l pee or poop in it just the same,..since she cant hold  it 
in,and I
> > cant wake up. I need to get myself up somehow,get a
> > better alarm,set my cellphone to ff more times,or SOMETHING
> > regardless of wether she is in s crate or not,becuase I do not 
want  her
> > using weewee pads. I'd rather get up and take her outside for a  
year
> > untill she can go all night without going out. Its worth it to  
me. I
> > just need to wake up ! :) Christine  Oh if chihua ...I'm
> > back...She jumped off my lap. I took that as a cue to go potty 
so we
> > went outside,and she went! during daylight hours (4whole days 
we've  had
> > her)NOT ONE SINGLE accident! Anyway If a full grown chi cannot  
hold it
> > in overnight I will consider using weewee pads(at night
> > only).Same goes for if I am unsuccessful at nighttime
> > pottytraining.  Someone please tell me they can hold it in 
overnight
> > *eventualy*.. thanks again... Christine
> >
> >
> >>  First off Congratulations on your new baby.  What's her name?  
I
> > too just
> >> recently got my first Chihuahua.  She is 9 weeks old is blue
> > spotted on
> >> white, and her name is Zoey.  Second, is your puppy sleeping in 
a
> > crate or
> >> anything or just allowed out?  Dogs generally won't go potty
> > somewhere they
> >> see as their 'den'.  I would recommend getting your little 
puppy a
> > crate to
> >> sleep in.  This is the best quickest way to potty train them if
> > you want
> >> them to go potty outside.  My little puppy is getting potty
> > pad/litter box
> >> trained as is doing quite well.  She is only allowed out if
> > someone is
> >> directly supervising her or playing with her, if we can't watch
> > her she is
> >> put in her pen.  I have made an exercise pen 'her area'  It has
> > her bed,
> >> food, toys on one end and a potty pad/litter box on the other.
> > That way if
> >> we can't watch her she's not going potty wherever she feels the
> > need, but
> >> somewhere that is appropriate.  At night she is in a large wire
> > crate with
> >> her bed on one end and potty pad on the other in my bedroom.  
She
> > is doing
> >> excellen with this.  From what I have been told and what I've
> > heard, it
> >> usually takes up to 6-8months before a Chihuahua is considered
> > reliably
> >> housetrained.  At 7 weeks they do not have full control of their
> > bowels or
> >> bladder so will generally just go wherever they are whether it 
be
> > during
> >> play or something else.  Here is some excellent advice that was
> > sent on
> >> another Chi group I am on.  Probably the BEST advice I have ever
> > seen about
> >> potty training puppies.  Good luck!     I just found out/put my
> > name on a
> >> waiting list for a Show Quality Long Hair Female 
Chihuahua....so I
> > will be
> >> adding another Chi to my family in the near future!
> >>
> >>  Okay, this will be a serious answer to the housebreaking
> > questions raised.
> >> I
> >> Do dog training for several rescue groups. The #1 reason dogs 
are
> > dumped, in
> >>
> >> My opinion, is because they have not been properly housebroken 
and
> > their
> >> Owners are tired of dealing with it. Most of the dogs I get in 
my
> > home have
> >> no
> >> Concept of what housebreaking is or what is expected of them.
> >>
> >> First, here is my definition of a dog that is housebroken: A dog
> > that will
> >> Either (a) use an inside method to eliminate (whether it is
> > papers, pee pads
> >>
> >> Or a doggie litter box) or (B) will indicate to its owner that 
it
> > wants to
> >> use
> >> The outside to eliminate. I know some people will say, my dog is
> > housebroken
> >>
> >> But sometimes has accidents in the house. If your dog is
> > eliminating
> >> Inappropriately at any time, it is not housebroken.
> >>
> >> Sometimes, a dog -- especially stubborn breeds like chis and 
jack
> > Russell
> >> Terriers -- will engage in what I call "spiteful elimination".  
I
> > have one
> >> Here that does that. If she gets annoyed at someone -- for
> > example, she
> >> tried
> >> To steal my lunch and I scolded her -- she will look for a shoe 
or
> > some
> >> other
> >> Personal property and either urinate or defecate on it. That is 
a
> > different
> >> Story and that is a behavior problem. That type of problem
> > requires a
> >> Different approach and involves dog obedience.
> >>
> >> Things you should realize when housebreaking as dog:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. If you don't catch them in the act of making, do not scold
> > them. They
> >> have
> >> No idea what you are yelling about. Dogs have a very short term
> > memory span.
> >> I
> >> Believe I read somewhere that if you don't catch it within the
> > first 15 or
> >> 20
> >> Seconds, the dog doesn't know what is going on.  So, if you come
> > home and
> >> There is feces or urine someplace you don't want it, and you 
start
> > yelling
> >> or
> >> Scolding dog, the dog thinks you are mad at it but has no idea 
WHY
> > you are
> >> Mad. After a while, the dog will not come when you call it 
because
> > of this.
> >> (this is also one of the main reasons that dogs have difficulty
> > responding
> >> to
> >> Their owners in obedience classes. They have learned to fear 
them
> > and view
> >> Their owner's behavior as unpredictable. Once you lose your 
dog's
> > trust in
> >> You, it takes a lot of work to get it back)
> >>
> >>
> >> Think of it from the dog's point of view. He doesn't realize 
that
> > what he
> >> did
> >> Was wrong because you were not there to catch him and tell him.
> > All he knows
> >> Is the person he loves and adores is home. He rushes to greet 
you.
> > His tail
> >> is
> >> Wagging, he is excited that "HIS" human is here! You are back! 
How
> > do you
> >> Respond to this joyful greeting of love and adoration??? You 
yell
> > and scold.
> >>
> >> Wow, he thinks, what's their problem? This happens 2 or 3 times
> > and he
> >> begins
> >> To fear you as the psychotic yelling machine that comes home 
every
> > day.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2.  If you catch the dog eliminating inappropriately, do not 
yell
> > again.
> >> This
> >> Will only scare him and he will eliminate even more. Just say 
in a
> > calm, but
> >>
> >> Firm voice: no, not there. Scoop up the dog and place him where
> > you want him
> >>
> >> To go. Even if he only dribbles the last few drops of urine from
> > his bladder
> >>
> >> Because the rest of it has already been deposited on your rug,
> > PRAISE HIM.
> >> Be
> >> Very effusive "what a good doggie. What a very good boy".
> >>
> >>
> >> Do not rub his nose in it. Do not keep pointing to the spot
> > yelling. This
> >> only
> >> Reinforces the psychotic owner image in the dog's mind.
> >>
> >>
> >> 3.  If there is a spot where you dog makes all the time, make 
sure
> > it is
> >> Thoroughly cleaned up and the odors removed or the dog will
> > continue to use
> >> It. Animals are drawn to the smell. The best method I have ever
> > found was
> >> not
> >> In a commercial product, but plain old white vinegar.  Dilute 2 
to
> > 1 in
> >> water,
> >> Saturate the rug area with the vinegar/water solution. Let it 
sit
> > for a
> >> minute
> >> Or two. Wipe up the excess. Then sprinkle baking soda generously
> > over the
> >> Spot. It should be a thin layer over the wet vinegar/water spot.
> > Let it sit
> >> For 24 to 36 hours. The baking soda will turn a yellow/brown 
color
> > (that is
> >> The urine from the under padding being absorbed by the baking
> > soda) and it
> >> Will become hard. When it is hard, just vacuum it up.
> >>
> >> If it is on a hard floor or laminate floor, check with the
> > manufacturer. I
> >> Have Mannington floors in my home. I specifically purchased the
> > industrial
> >>
> >> Strength laminate floors from them because of all the
> > housebreaking I do.
> >>
> >> These floors can take the vinegar/water mix on them for a minute
> > or two
> >> without ruining the finish. I have had my floors 3 years and 
they
> > still look
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> like new. Most flooring companies have a website that you can
> > check for
> >> cleaning instructions and tolerance levels of cleaners.
> >>
> >>
> >> 4. No liquids after 7 pm. Just like when you are potty training
> > children.
> >> You
> >> have to realize that a puppy chi has the bladder the size of a
> > large pea or
> >> small lima bean. It cannot hold much. A lot of times puppies 
will
> > drink to
> >> satisfy things other than thirst. That is why I would recommend
> > buying
> >> unflavored pedialyte (children or baby aisle of store) and
> > freezing in an
> >> ice
> >> cube tray (I use the really small cube tray, the teeny tiny
> > ones).  After 7
> >> pm pop two or three of those cubes in a bowl and just put enough
> > water in
> >> the bottom of the dish to cover it. This will aid in the melting
> > of the
> >> cubes.
> >>
> >>
> >> If the dog is thirsty, he will lick and suck on the cubes. The
> > electrolytes
> >> in
> >>
> >> the pedialyte will satisfy his thirst and he won't become
> > dehydrated, but he
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> won't be able to consume enough fluid to overflow his bladder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 5. Watch the dog. If you see him sniffing or circling, place him
> > in an area
> >> which is appropriate to eliminate.  Watch the dog. If he is
> > drinking a lot
> >> at
> >> one time, realize that within the next 10-15 minutes he will 
have
> > to urinate
> >>
> >> Watch the dog. If he is chowing down on food, realize that 
within
> > the next
> >> 20-
> >> 25 minutes he will have to defecate. Watching the dog and 
learning
> > his body
> >> language is important.
> >>
> >>
> >> 6. This is one thing I cannot stress enough: Praise. An effusive
> > emotional
> >> positive praise response after every act of appropriate
> > elimination --
> >> whether
> >> it is just sniffing the pad and not making or using the pad, or
> > going up to
> >> you or the door to be let out -- is essential. The dog learns 
that
> > when he
> >> does this type of action, he gets what he values most:  Your
> > undivided
> >> attention in a positive manner.  That is what housebreaking is. 
We
> > are re-
> >> programming the dog's natural instincts of eliminating where he
> > wants to. We
> >>
> >> are training him to act in a manner which fits into human
> > lifestyle. What is
> >>
> >> his motive to do this? You. You and your love, and your praise 
and
> > your
> >> positive attitude which makes him feel like he is the king (or
> > queen) of
> >> your
> >> world.
> >>
> >>
> >> 7.  There is no such thing as a dog being too old to be
> > housebroken. I have
> >> done puppy mill rescue and geriatric dog rescue since 1989. NONE
> > of these
> >> dogs
> >> have been housebroken. The average age of these dogs coming into
> > my home is
> >> 7
> >> or 8 years old. EVERY dog leaves my house: housebroken and on 
leash
> >> obedience
> >> trained. You must be consistent; you must be patient; and you 
must
> > put your
> >> ego on the back burner. And EVERYONE in the household must
> > participate in
> >> this
> >> training, not just one person.
> >>
> >>
> >> 8.  A Chihuahua or any toy breed for that manner takes a long 
time
> > to
> >> housebreak when young. I have found the average age for being
> > fully
> >> housebroken to be about 9-12 months old. Some do learn earlier,
> > some learn
> >> later. But this is the average age based on my years of
> > experience.
> >> Personally, I was shocked when I started working with toy breeds
> > because the
> >>
> >>
> >> larger dogs "get it" a lot faster. But, most Chihuahuas take a 
lot
> > longer to
> >>
> >> learn the housebreaking "rules".
> >>
> >>
> >> This is partly because of their size, their bladders are small,
> > and it takes
> >> a
> >> long time to gain full control of the bladder. Bladder muscle
> > control is a
> >> slow and steady process.  Patience is necessary.  Another reason
> > is because
> >>
> >> they are a stubborn breed and it sometimes becomes a battle of 
the
> > wills.
> >>
> >> After all, it is much easier for the dog to pee in the corner 
of a
> > room
> >> where
> >> the puppy is playing (and not interrupt his play sequence) then 
it
> > is to go
> >> to
> >>
> >> the appropriate area. Consistency and Patience are a must when
> > training toy
> >>
> >> breeds.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Chrisc B of New Joisey
> >> Tabukitti's Animal House
> >>
> >>  Heather Thompson
> >> Visit My Dogs on Dogster: Zoey : Jakob : Chloe
> >> Visit my Website: Setareh Westies Next litter due Feb 2006
> >> Follow my girl Chloes Pregnancy from Day 1: Doggie Moms To Be 
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> >> -------Original Message-------
> >>
> >> From: Katherine
> >> Date: 12/29/05 06:09:21
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [Chihuahuas] new to group ,questions on housebraking
> >>
> >> Hello. My name is Christine . Our family Just got a new 
chihuahua  for
> >> the first time on the 26th. She is very lively. For the first  
two
> >> days we had no accidents during the day. I have taken her
> >> outside everytime. Ive been sleeping with her on the floor by 
the
> >> front door at night,so when she wakes up to poty,I can take her
> >> outside also. Well,aperantly last night I didn't wake up with 
her.
> >> She pooped by the front door,and also in our bedroom. I geuss 
when
> >> she was done with her buissness she curled back up in my
> >> arms,because this morning it was as if she never left me.
> >> IS there a better way for me to wake up,to take her outside? I
> > think
> >> I should set an alarm to go off every couple hours or something.
> > Wil
> >> l she need to potty every night for the rest of her life due 
to  being
> >> so small,or will she outgrow it like other dogs do?
> >> I do NOT like having poop inside my home. BUt I may consider 
using
> > a
> >> weewee pad for at night only,because it looks like we might have
> > to
> >> do that. Im afraid if shes taught to use one at night tho,she 
will
> >> want to use it during the day. She is 7weeks and I have not let
> > any
> >> accidents accur during the day since we've had her. My plan is 
for
> >> her to eventualy go to the front door to tell us when she has to
> > go.
> >> Thanks so much! Christine
> >>
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