Nonnie , I will say this once. . My son spent 3 months in JV for 
breaking my hubbys jaw at 15, my other son killed our turkey and 
left it for us  to find.  this bird was our pet.  My other son broke 
all the lights out of my truck and then stood outside so angry at me 
that I was afraid of what he would do.. Unless you have been there 
then you have no right to say what you would or would not do . This 
is painful and as terrible as it may be Marsha's son might not have 
meant to do the damage he did..He probably didn't think of how this 
one kick would be so damaging.. I am not saying that it is right or 
wrong but that I have also done stuff that has not been met with the 
consequences I wanted.. So to date. my kids are all grown up . And 
guess what??   My ADHD kid is okay, My tourettes syndrome kid still 
has ticks but lives his life and the other one does go in and out of 
jail for driving with no license  and having big fines, but at 
22years old this kid makes 16.00 per hour welding . so there is 
always hope at the end of the rainbow.   Offer prayers. and a saying 
I have is if you are not part of the solution , then you become part 
of the problem.. Our society is so full of others telling what they 
can and can't do. Please give Marsha moral support and offer ideas 
for her son.. When my son broke my hubbys jaw  Steves best friend 
told me how he thought about killing my son.. If nothing else then 
beating my son.. I told him , You touch my son, I kill you.. Yes, my 
son hurt my hubby ,but I love them both.   This son is now the  
father of 2 sons he loves so much. He is 25 now. So there is hope.. 

Hang in there Marsha.. If you need a friend then call me anytime.. I 
left my number on your e-mail.. 

Also Marsha , when you figure things out and stuff and you know 
things are okay then  contact me.. I would look at making a room 
just for your chis but contact me ,.. I have pups coming  very 
soon.. Maybe we can work out something. You work on securing a safe 
area and I will let you know when babies come.. Take care Marsha, 
Cindy                                                                
                                                                     
                                                      





--- In [email protected], "Nonnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really don't think I said anything out of line to be honest with 
you.  I
> will say this ... according to Marsha's own statement she knew 
that there
> was a potential problem in her home and had problems with her son 
before
> this incident.    I am sure she is very horrified over what 
happened and
> there is no win in this situation because I'm sure Marsha is torn 
in both
> directions.
>  
> No parent wants to see bad in their child.  No matter what their 
child does
> they stick by them.  I'm different.... and its probably easy for 
me to say
> this objectively because I have not had a child and its really 
easy to
> faults in other people's children and be amazed that the parents 
do nothing
> to remedy the situation.  So many kids are out of control and 
parents just
> don't know what to do or do nothing because doing something would 
cause more
> problems until the situation is so bad that they MUST do something.
>  
> I think enough said about this situation.  It needs to rest.
>  
> Nonnie & the Punk & Darla
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Connie major
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:33 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Comments - was- Re: In Memory
> 
> 
> well maybe you should of thought ahead before opening your mouth 
and
> speaking
> 
> Nonnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> no I wouldn't have my dogs around my horses because that would be 
an
> accident waiting to happen.  I don't bring the Punk with me to the 
stable.
> If he is out of the little fenced yard I have, he is either in my 
arms or at
> the end of the leash.  I always take precautions with all my 
animals.
>  
> My horses do NOT get in the trailer without legwraps and head 
bumpers even
> though my trailer is the tallest you can get.  Precautions.  We 
change tires
> every 3 years although they are not worn out just in case of dry 
rot.
> Safety first.
>  
> I am someone who looks ahead and minimizes any and all potential 
risks to my
> animals.
>  
> Nonnie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Kay Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Comments - was- Re: In Memory
> 
> 
> Nonnie, again I suggest you think twice and read twice before 
sending.
> Oh and put on glasses so you can see what awful crap your writing.
> I suggest silence at this point.  This is a bad enough situation
> without you going off like some half crocked crazie woman...
> 
> You don't have children, so don't say a word until you have walked 
a
> mile in a mothers shoes.  So let's discuss what you can 
understand. 
> 
> If one of your horses stomps one of your dogs, what are you going 
to
> do....  shoot the horse?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Nonnie" <nonnie_nt@> wrote:
> >
> > SOrry but that was my first reaction.  I know she is hurting 
losing her
> > little dog but I would never tolerate something like that in my
> home.  Get
> > the kid some help or something.  I just can't imagine someone 
doing
> that to
> > the Punk.  They wouldn't be alive... kid or no kid.  To me the
> animals come
> > first.  I never had children, chose not to have children.  The 
Punk
> & Darla
> > and my horses are my children and are so loved its not funny.  I 
was
> > horrified when I read that post.
> >  
> > I find kids today and not just in this situation but in all
> situations seem
> > to lack manners and decorum.  I don't know what society can do 
about
> it.  I
> > was never raised this way and wouldn't think of acting the way 
kids do
> > today.
> >  
> > I am very sorry Marsha lost her little chihuahua and I hope she
> takes steps
> > to deal with her son and never let it happen again.  If she has
> other dogs
> > protect them.
> >  
> > Nonnie & the Punk & Darla
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Kay Lewis
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:29 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: In Memory
> > 
> > 
> > Nonnie,
> > I really think you need to rethink your comments and apologize, 
and in
> > the future think twice before typing and then read twice before
> > hitting the send button.  Right now Marsha needs strength and our
> > prayers to get through what is going on in her life. Smart 
comments
> > are not helpful and are not needed.
> > 
> > Marsha,
> > I know there are no words any of us can say that will bring you
> > comfort at this time, but do know your in our hearts and prayers.
> > I'm thankful that Honey went quickly and I'm praying that you 
find
> > the professional help you need with your son.
> > I'm so sorry this has happened.
> > Kay
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Nonnie" <nonnie_nt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OH MY GOD.... IS YOUR SON STILL ALIVE!!! IF HE WERE HERE HE 
WOULD
> > NOT BE.
> > >  
> > > THE PUNK who says my mom would have killed the kid.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of marsha Taylor
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:10 PM
> > > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> > > Subject: [Chihuahuas] In Memory
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > IN MEMORY
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> > > March 21, 2006
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> > > mad because he was barking, and kicked him. I am in total shock
> > right now.
> > > Numb. 
> > > Marsha
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