I agree with everything Jan said, and yes, Marsha has already begun 
the work with her son (all she can do with him at the moment) and 
has now moved to keeping Ginger going. As far as Nonnie, I'm not 
sure why everyone else is so upset with her posts. I didn't care for 
her comments on Marsha's DOG situation, but that is her opinion. My 
problem was her stating to everyone that she does not like children 
and that Marsha's son should be killed for what he did. I love kids 
and have 2 small boys myself. I come to this group to talk about 
chihuahuas, not hear awful things about someone's hatred for 
children. If she wants to talk about that, she needs to save it for 
a group like that. That is why I have personally chosen not to read 
anymore of her posts. Maybe I will in the future when all of this 
blows over and we are all on the chihuahua subject again.  ~Lacey
 BTW, I have no ill feelings towards anyone in the group that 
expresses their concerns or opinions about chihuahuas. EVERYONE is 
entitled to their own opinion, that's what makes this group 
interesting.   :)



 In [email protected], Janisis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know Mike, I take your point, and I have to say that in your 
rush to judge what Marsha is doing or not doing with her child, you 
have over looked, what I read from Marsha's post, quite clearly.  
She states that she  IS and HAS BEEN doing everything she can think 
of to help her son.  If you have contructive advice on how to deal 
with troubled boys perhaps she would be open to hearing it... off 
list.  
>   Because this is a Chi list I don't think any of us can clearly 
judge what Marsha is or isn't doing to help her son.  It's off topic 
for her to discuss it here.  
>    
>   What she can share with us is what she is doing to deal with the 
loss of her little Chi, Honey.  You know,  some people comfort 
themselves by plunging into the next thing.  It seems to be that 
Marsha's burdens limit how much she can have for herself.  Who am I 
to judge Marsha's motives for replacing her beloved pet or her 
interest in breeding.  It seems to me that Marsh has a lot to deal 
with and if another little friend helps her get through the day, I'm 
not going to judge her or attempt to publically humilate her.   
That's just MY opinion.
>    
>   Jan    
> 
> Mike -n- Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I thought this was a Chihuahua Group! I am posting to the group 
and 
> ban me or block me, or whatevr if you must. I am a new Chi owner, 
and 
> looked to yall for help and advise about my new baby, I never 
expected 
> to see WW3 break out. Every day the US Army and others (several 
are my 
> personal friends) go out and fight for our freedom of speech and 
here 
> we are having someones right to that taken away when yall squash 
her 
> (online) voice. Maybe she wasn't right, maybe she was, that is not 
for 
> us to decide. You have to take EVERYONES opinion and sort out how 
you 
> want believe for yourself. She had *at least* one point that i 
whole 
> heartedly agree with, the lady needs to concern herself more with 
her 
> son than getting another dog and to me it seems she has it 
backwards, 
> this is my opinion and i am intitled to it, like it or not. I'm 
sure 
> most will not agree and several will want me banned and for that I 
am 
> sorry. I will end my rambling for now....
> 
> 
> Shell and Smokey
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